From: Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] makefile: add silent rules
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:21:55 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120817012155.GR27715@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <502D8BFC.8030601@gentoo.org>
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 02:10:36AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
> > I remember there were several advantages to standard full output, so the
> > verdict was that *if* they're added, they get disabled by default.
>
> It is disabled by default.
There was never any agreement to add this stuff, just a consensus
that, if it does get added despite the overwhelming opinions against
it, it be off-by-default.
> > While this patch does respect that, I'd like to know whether there's a
> > better reason for the added ugliness than "Some folks don't like to see
> > what's happening"...
>
> It is faster, you see the warnings w/out useless clutter. You do not
> care about seeing what the clean target is doing most of the times and such.
The speed issue is the only somewhat compelling one; musl's build does
take several times longer on slow terminals merely because the
terminal sucks. It's really sad when it takes more time to display 2-3
lines of text than to compile and assemble a whole .c file...
> > Patch 3/3 is the most valuable part of the series, I think.
> > I can see merging that, and patch 2/3 is trivial.
>
> Indeed, but since I did the work and since at least for few people is
> useful I tried to rebase it.
I'm still undecided. My leaning is towards simplicity in the build
system. This sort of feature really belongs in make itself, not
re-implemented in every makefile (i.e. make could just print something
like "$< -> $@" for every rule it runs and suppress the printing of
the commands).
Rich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-17 1:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-16 16:18 Luca Barbato
2012-08-16 16:18 ` [PATCH 2/3] cosmetic: remove trailing whitespace Luca Barbato
2012-08-16 16:18 ` [PATCH 3/3] makefile: split install target Luca Barbato
2012-08-17 23:33 ` Rich Felker
2012-08-16 16:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] makefile: add silent rules orc
2012-08-16 17:05 ` Luca Barbato
2012-08-16 23:03 ` idunham
2012-08-16 23:06 ` Gregor Richards
2012-08-17 0:10 ` Luca Barbato
2012-08-17 1:21 ` Rich Felker [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-06-13 5:22 Build system tweaks Luca Barbato
2012-06-13 5:22 ` [PATCH 1/3] makefile: add silent rules Luca Barbato
2012-06-13 6:27 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2012-06-13 7:46 ` Luca Barbato
2012-06-13 7:34 ` John Spencer
2012-06-13 7:45 ` Luca Barbato
2012-06-13 9:45 ` John Spencer
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