From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/2261 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rich Felker Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: lightweight web browsers (was: [ANN] sabotage 0.9.7 milestone (x86[_64]) release) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 23:02:52 -0500 Message-ID: <20121109040252.GZ20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <50993C1E.2070606@barfooze.de> <20121106220455.31b46de5.idunham@lavabit.com> <509C5EA6.6010306@barfooze.de> <49019.132.241.155.109.1352433432.squirrel@lavabit.com> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352433786 25729 80.91.229.3 (9 Nov 2012 04:03:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 04:03:06 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-2262-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Fri Nov 09 05:03:16 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TWfoG-0000RZ-Ut for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 05:03:13 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 12167 invoked by uid 550); 9 Nov 2012 04:03:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 12159 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2012 04:03:03 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49019.132.241.155.109.1352433432.squirrel@lavabit.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:2261 Archived-At: On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 07:57:12PM -0800, idunham@lavabit.com wrote: > > On 11/07/2012 07:04 AM, Isaac Dunham wrote: > >> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:34:38 +0100 > >> John Spencer wrote: > >>> still missing: > >>> - a desktop browser that comes with minimal dependencies (currently > >>> only > >>> lynx can be used to browse the interwebs) > >> So you don't have Links2 yet? > >> > >> Dependencies: > >> CLI: > >> Minimal: > >> openssl | gnutls > >> ncurses > >> Enhancements: > >> libz, liblzma, bzip2 (transparent decompression) > >> -libz, while optional, should be enabled or some sites won't work. > >> GUI: > >> Minimal: > >> libpng (1.2, NOT 1.5!) > > > > oh, that's bad. i rather not have to have 2 different library versions > > around. > In my tests, libpng 1.5 is a little bit new for a good bit of software. > And Debian and Gentoo are both still defaulting to 1.2.x. > (libpng 1.2 & 1.4 are "stable" but ABI incompatible; 1.5 is "development") > My own inclination would be to just use libpng 1.2, but...sabotage is your > project, not mine. libpng is a really, REALLY badly designed library. It's no surprise the ABI keeps getting broken, but I wish they'd go ahead and fix the API when they break the ABI... > >> And it's unfortunate that OWB seems to be gone; it was a WebKit/SDL > >> browser > > hmm i vaguely remember that compiling webkit has lots of dependencies, > > at least the last time i tried it. > > > They ported WebKit to SDL. If I remember right, they somehow took care of > most of the dependencies. Interesting. Rich