From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/2314 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rich Felker Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Revisiting 1.0 wishlist Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 00:09:40 -0500 Message-ID: <20121120050940.GA13916@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353388194 24236 80.91.229.3 (20 Nov 2012 05:09:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 05:09:54 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-2315-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Tue Nov 20 06:10:05 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tag61-0000bb-CX for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 06:10:05 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 5626 invoked by uid 550); 20 Nov 2012 05:09:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 5618 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2012 05:09:54 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:2314 Archived-At: About 18 months ago, shortly after the initial public release of musl, I posted a wishlist of what I thought it would take to consider musl to have reached "1.0" quality. The other day I was revisiting that, and thought I'd post a summary of my thoughts to the list as a starting point for further discussion. Completed goals: - coverage for all of C99 and POSIX base and supported option groups - character class handling sync'd to current Unicode - dynamic loading (except in static-linked apps) - C++ support In addition, significant progress has been made on the open-ended goals of application compatibility and ability to load/run some glibc-linked binaries (applications and libraries). Part of the goal originally stated in the wishlist was to determine a collection of "important" applications and ensure compatibility against them. I think now would be a good time to start doing that. Perhaps LFS (Linux >From Scratch) might make a good base set to start with, especially since lots of people building their own systems who might use musl will be starting with LFS as a guide. We could add and remove some packages from the list as desired. Aside from yet-to-be-defined compatibility goals, the only thing missing from musl that was in the original 1.0 wishlist is documentation. There is also one other goal I introduced later, on which I think 1.0 needs to depend: support for a to-be-determined set of additional legacy character encodings in iconv. At the very least, the major legacy encodings for Korean and Traditional Chinese should be included, and it may also be desirable to add support for stateful encodings (ISO-2022). Aside from these, I believe all encodings important for supporting legacy data on the web, in email, etc. are supported. That's about it for now. As usual, comments are welcome. Rich