From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/2356 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rich Felker Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: musl 0.9.8 released Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:53:04 -0500 Message-ID: <20121128235304.GS20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <20121127024958.GA23123@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20121127184329.a20d1160.idunham@lavabit.com> <20121128033948.GO20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20121127205116.1dbf130f.idunham@lavabit.com> <20121128130507.GP20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <1354138556.2190.6@driftwood> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354146802 13018 80.91.229.3 (28 Nov 2012 23:53:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:53:22 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-2357-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Thu Nov 29 00:53:31 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TdrRY-00015M-54 for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:53:28 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 28570 invoked by uid 550); 28 Nov 2012 23:53:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 28562 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2012 23:53:16 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1354138556.2190.6@driftwood> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:2356 Archived-At: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:35:56PM -0600, Rob Landley wrote: > On 11/28/2012 07:05:07 AM, Rich Felker wrote: > >This is fairly comparable to the mips1 issue and the need for ll/sc > >emulation by the kernel. i386 is just fundamentally lacking in a way > >that makes multi-tasking/multi-threading not workable with the POSIX > >apis for it. The kernel should be emulating 'lock cmpxchg', like it > >does ll/sc for mips1, and if it did, 386 would work fine. But > >apparently nobody cares anyway.. > > Actually this just got removed literally today: > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/28/445 *sigh* that's frustrating. > If I recall, there was a longish discussion that boiled down to > nobody could find actual 386 hardware still in use to test any of > this with. It would be easy to test on qemu. I even have a 386 board I could set back up and test... Rich