From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/2377 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rich Felker Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Summary of 1.0 marketing plan/scheme/nefarious plot from IRC. Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:05:26 -0500 Message-ID: <20121130190526.GA20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <1354222203.2190.17@driftwood> <20121130012701.GY20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <50B8C2CB.30303@gentoo.org> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354302340 14212 80.91.229.3 (30 Nov 2012 19:05:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 19:05:40 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-2378-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Fri Nov 30 20:05:53 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TeVuJ-0008CV-Cz for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:05:51 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 7943 invoked by uid 550); 30 Nov 2012 19:05:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 7935 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2012 19:05:39 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50B8C2CB.30303@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:2377 Archived-At: On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 03:29:31PM +0100, Luca Barbato wrote: > On 11/30/12 2:27 AM, Rich Felker wrote: > > I'd go with xfce or lxde. Last I checked fvwm still didn't even have > > modern text support (using legacy X font system). BTW, supposedly the > > new HarfBuzz and other text rendering stack stuff has taken a turn in > > the direction we like. I saw an article on the redesign that claimed > > 98-99% drop in bloat for working with fonts. I mention this mainly > > because, as much as a lot of us are unhappy with FDO and related > > projects, it would be nice to support and praise when that stuff does > > move in the right direction. > > HarfBuzz isn't that strange not-quite-C++-yet-C++ franken-library? Bleh, it looks like it was converted to C++ at some point. This is a major disappointment. Add "opentype interpreter" to the list of core system components that need to be replaced... Fortunately, I think this is something that can be done in at most a couple thousand lines of C. .. WTF. On looking at it again, it seems to be C source with .cc extension on all the source files. No idea what they were thinking. I'd be interested in hearing the story on this. Rich