From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/2384 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rich Felker Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Summary of 1.0 marketing plan/scheme/nefarious plot from IRC. Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:26:43 -0500 Message-ID: <20121130212643.GD20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <1354222203.2190.17@driftwood> <20121130012701.GY20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <50B8C2CB.30303@gentoo.org> <20121130190526.GA20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20121130202546.GA32305@port70.net> <20121130202659.GC20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <50B92199.1060106@gentoo.org> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354310816 23055 80.91.229.3 (30 Nov 2012 21:26:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:26:56 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-2385-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Fri Nov 30 22:27:08 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TeY72-0006Dw-HJ for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 22:27:08 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 2019 invoked by uid 550); 30 Nov 2012 21:26:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 2011 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2012 21:26:56 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50B92199.1060106@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:2384 Archived-At: On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:14:01PM +0100, Luca Barbato wrote: > On 11/30/12 9:26 PM, Rich Felker wrote: > > I suppose it could be forked and that mess patched out... > > If you do I'll help as well. I think my staying out of this is part of what Landley meant by not getting into the distro business. :-) If whoever _is_ working on a small, self-hosting system with decent modern GUI gets to the point of dealing with harfbuzz and wanting to keep out all C++ dependencies, I think the polite way to handle it would be to contact the maintainers and tell them why it's a burden to require a C++ compiler (especially if you want to use pcc or something firm-based with no C++ compiler) and that you're willing to maintain a no-C++ fork, but would also be interested in whether they'd be willing to phase-out C++ usage. Rich