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From: Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: malloc(0) behaviour
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:46:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130115134634.GX20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130115110618.GA4468@port70.net>

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:06:18PM +0100, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> * Igmar Palsenberg <igmar@palsenberg.com> [2013-01-15 09:31:24 +0100]:
> > > fundamental reasons too. Basically they all come down to interactions
> > > between the requirements of malloc and realloc, and the fact that
> > > returning a null pointer from realloc means failure (and thus that the
> > > 
> > > http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/dr_400.htm
> > > http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=400
> > > http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12547
> > 
> > While the above is clear to me, returning a pointer that can't hold anything just seems wrong to me.
> 
> i don't think we have too many options here,
> the standards and historical practices has
> various inconsistencies and musl has the least
> broken one
> 
> but we can do a theoretical discussion about
> the merits of malloc(0)!=0:
> 
> i'm surprised that it "seems wrong" to you,
> you can access the amount of bytes you requested
> through the returned pointer p, evaluating
> p+size is valid, p is suitably aligned for all
> objects and it can be freed.
> these assumptions are broken if malloc(0)==0
> 
> if the standard made malloc(0) work in ansi c
> then it would save some branch logic and would
> made the world a safer place
> (because in a fair amount of code that gets
> array length from external source no special
> casing would be needed for length==0)

In fairness, there's hardly any difference between the work involved
in:

    if (size < LIMIT)

and

    if (size-1 < LIMIT-1)

The latter catches 0 and treats it as invalid.

> > I'll wrap malloc() to include an abort in my case :)
> 
> but don't do that in library code that may be
> used in a long running process: allocation failures
> should be reported to let the caller handle it

I think he meant malloc(0) would abort to indicate that, in the rules
of his project, malloc(0) is a programming error. This is not such a
bad idea..

Rich


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-15 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-14 17:17 Igmar Palsenberg
2013-01-14 18:05 ` Rich Felker
2013-01-14 22:22   ` Strake
2013-01-14 23:05     ` Rich Felker
2013-01-15  8:32     ` Igmar Palsenberg
2013-01-15 12:53       ` Rob Landley
2013-01-15 22:18         ` Igmar Palsenberg
2013-01-15  8:31   ` Igmar Palsenberg
2013-01-15 11:06     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-01-15 12:33       ` Igmar Palsenberg
2013-01-15 13:48         ` Rich Felker
2013-01-15 22:28           ` Igmar Palsenberg
2013-01-15 23:22             ` Rob
2013-01-16  7:46               ` Igmar Palsenberg
2013-01-15 13:46       ` Rich Felker [this message]
2013-01-15 12:52     ` Rob Landley
2013-01-14 23:37 ` Rob Landley
2013-01-15  0:24   ` Rich Felker
2013-01-15 12:17     ` Rob Landley
2013-01-15  9:01   ` Igmar Palsenberg
2013-01-15 12:58     ` Rob Landley
2013-01-15 14:54       ` dladdr() pierre
2013-01-15 18:48         ` dladdr() Rich Felker
2013-01-16 11:00           ` dladdr() pierre
2013-01-16 12:51             ` dladdr() Szabolcs Nagy
2013-01-16 14:24               ` dladdr() musl
2013-01-16 15:20                 ` dladdr() pierre
2013-01-16 16:49                 ` dladdr() Rich Felker
2013-01-16 17:42                   ` dladdr() musl
2013-01-21  2:03                     ` dladdr() Rich Felker
2013-01-21  6:58                       ` dladdr() pierre
2013-01-21 18:35                         ` dladdr() Rich Felker
2013-01-22  6:27                           ` dladdr() pierre
2013-01-22 13:07                             ` dladdr() Szabolcs Nagy
2013-01-22 13:40                               ` dladdr() pierre
2013-01-22 13:51                                 ` dladdr() Rich Felker
2013-01-22 14:59                                   ` dladdr() pierre
2013-01-22 16:11                                     ` dladdr() Szabolcs Nagy
2013-01-22 23:43                                       ` dladdr() Rich Felker

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