mailing list of musl libc
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: musl vs. Debian policy
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 08:04:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130307130424.GW20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130306152913.59b2e776.idunham@lavabit.com>

On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 03:29:13PM -0800, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> I started writing a short explanation of the musl installation for packagers, and realized that there's one area that's inconvenient:
> $syslib/ld-musl-*.so.1 is a symlink to libc.so.
> 
> Debian policy requires that any public libraries have a version number. 
> Specifically, Debian Policy 8.2 
> (http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html): 
> If your package contains files whose names do not change with each
> change in the library shared object version, you must not put them
> in the shared library package. Otherwise, several versions of the
> shared library cannot be installed at the same time without filename
> clashes, making upgrades and transitions unnecessarily difficult.

Are you sure this applies? I don't think the libc.so in musl counts as
a "public library" as nothing references it by name. Moreover, if
installing as a package on a glibc-based distro, it should not be
installed in /usr/lib (where it would clash with glibc's libc.so
linker script) but rather its own path.

> The apparent solution to this is to ship only the dynamic linker,
> since this is all we need (the dependency on libc.so is disregarded
> when it comes to running dynamically linked programs). But
> currently, actually doing this would be somewhat of a hack.
> 
> Is there any prospect of installing lib/libc.so straight to
> ${LDSO_PATHNAME} ? I'm thinking it could be done via something like:

This has been proposed before, and the main obstacle was build-system
difficulties if I remember right. I'd still like to consider doing it,
but it would be nice to be able to do it for its own sake rather than
for the sake of satisfying distro policy being applied where it
doesn't make sense. Maybe we can try to figure out Debian's stance
before we rush into making the change for their sake.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-07 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-06 23:29 Isaac Dunham
2013-03-07 13:04 ` Rich Felker [this message]
2013-03-07 18:17   ` Christian Neukirchen
2013-03-07 18:45     ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-07 18:49       ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-03-08  0:41     ` Rich Felker
2013-03-08 15:13       ` Christian Neukirchen
2013-03-09  1:27         ` Rich Felker
2013-03-09 20:08           ` Christian Neukirchen
2013-03-10  3:29             ` Rich Felker
2013-03-10  3:39               ` Rich Felker
2013-03-08  1:03   ` Isaac Dunham
2013-03-08  1:10     ` Rich Felker
2013-03-08  4:03       ` Isaac Dunham
2013-03-09  1:23         ` Rich Felker
2013-03-07 18:56 ` Justin Cormack
2013-03-08  0:04   ` Isaac Dunham
2013-03-07 22:30 ` Rob Landley
2013-03-08  0:22   ` Isaac Dunham
2013-03-08  1:09     ` Kurt H Maier

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20130307130424.GW20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx \
    --to=dalias@aerifal.cx \
    --cc=musl@lists.openwall.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.vuxu.org/mirror/musl/

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).