From: Isaac Dunham <idunham@lavabit.com>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: musl vs. Debian policy
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:03:54 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130307200354.f489215c.idunham@lavabit.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130308011010.GY20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:10:10 -0500
Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote:
>
> The problem is that you don't understand that the reasons DON'T APPLY
> to musl. libc.so is purely a filename for the "ld" command to find. It
> has nothing to do with runtime or versioning. The only musl library
> file that will be searched when loading applications is
> /lib/ld-musl-$(ARCH).so.1, which DOES have a version number. The
> version number is encoded in the PT_INTERP rather than a DT_NEEDED
> header.
I understand that /lib/ld-musl-$(ARCH).so.1 is the only filename that a dynamically-linked binary sees.
However, if ld-musl-$(ARCH).so.1 is a symlink to libc.so, then anyone preparing a binary package must include libc.so in that package.
Incrementing the soversion (.so.1 -> .so.2) would not allow parallel installs. To illustrate, here's the layout I'm expecting with multiarch based on the current build system.
musl1:
/usr/lib/i486-linux-musl/libc.so
/lib/ld-musl-i386.so.1 => /usr/lib/i486-linux-musl/libc.so
musl2 (if ABI breaks):
/usr/lib/i486-linux-musl/libc.so
/lib/ld-musl-i386.so.2 => /usr/lib/i486-linux-musl/libc.so
I don't see any way for musl2 to be co-installed in a functional way, unless you change the triplet to i486-linux-musl2. Otherwise, you get the new ABI for both symlinks, breaking old binaries.
A more conventional layout, with all libraries in /usr/lib or /lib, would
have the same problem, but would not have the option of just changing the triplet/libdir.
Even if you are not using a binary-package-based distro, a library with the incremented soversion would still break old libraries, since ld-musl-$(ARCH).so.1 points to the new libc.so.
Is this analysis missing something?
Thank you,
Isaac Dunham <idunham@lavabit.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-08 4:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-06 23:29 Isaac Dunham
2013-03-07 13:04 ` Rich Felker
2013-03-07 18:17 ` Christian Neukirchen
2013-03-07 18:45 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-07 18:49 ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-03-08 0:41 ` Rich Felker
2013-03-08 15:13 ` Christian Neukirchen
2013-03-09 1:27 ` Rich Felker
2013-03-09 20:08 ` Christian Neukirchen
2013-03-10 3:29 ` Rich Felker
2013-03-10 3:39 ` Rich Felker
2013-03-08 1:03 ` Isaac Dunham
2013-03-08 1:10 ` Rich Felker
2013-03-08 4:03 ` Isaac Dunham [this message]
2013-03-09 1:23 ` Rich Felker
2013-03-07 18:56 ` Justin Cormack
2013-03-08 0:04 ` Isaac Dunham
2013-03-07 22:30 ` Rob Landley
2013-03-08 0:22 ` Isaac Dunham
2013-03-08 1:09 ` Kurt H Maier
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