From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/3151 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Isaac Dunham Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries? Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:04:30 -0700 Message-ID: <20130422220430.53d0b1a5.idunham@lavabit.com> References: <20130422233110.GU20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <1366678495.18069.154@driftwood> <20130423014639.GW20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366693488 23841 80.91.229.3 (23 Apr 2013 05:04:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 05:04:48 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-3155-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Tue Apr 23 07:04:52 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UUVPP-00012d-41 for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 07:04:51 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 9609 invoked by uid 550); 23 Apr 2013 05:04:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 9601 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2013 05:04:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lavabit; d=lavabit.com; b=ty6uudkgNBi99jMtKMELHmRUFGJhERueJybnGU420Sp0uHESHnzbb5i+jkjVPcSRHprICN+UbkrJElEKR8NmYkBI6kUAOymtJsDIm0qY6s8vRLIPV6GjQKRO1iyvYi30/sXqA6l9f1Plt10vPKXnLDhJuW+WJpfOj/DQUCHf1fc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; In-Reply-To: <20130423014639.GW20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:3151 Archived-At: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:46:40 -0400 Rich Felker wrote: > > > "There's always room for dropbear". And polarssl, and so on. > > cyassl looked promising too. I would probably mention tomcrypt too > even though it's not sufficient to do SSL; it has the most slim, > clean, portable implementations of crypto algorithms I've seen. wpa_supplicant can use tomcrypt (external or internal) as fallback if no other encryption method (ie, openssl/gnutls) is configured, so I'd say it merits a mention. I wonder if some notes should be put somewhere to point out that a network mangler on top of wpa_supplicant is not needed (the learning curve for configuring it is pretty steep, due to the need to find and understand the docs, but wpa_supplicant + wpa_cli -a script + wpa_cli in command mode can handle most situations, including dhcp). I mention this because it seems to be "accepted wisdom" (but false) that you need wpa_supplicant as a tool and a network manager to make it useable. And most of the network managers I've encountered are bloat of the highest order: NetworkManager, wicd, wifiradar... But this might be better put somewhere else. -- Isaac Dunham