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From: Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries?
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:17:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130424191735.GI20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130424154726.GD12689@port70.net>

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 05:47:26PM +0200, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> * Kurt H Maier <khm-lists@intma.in> [2013-04-24 07:48:52 -0400]:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:18:43PM +0200, Daniel Cegie??ka wrote:
> > > 
> > > btw. has anyone used go with musl?
> > > 
> > 
> > Go ships its own libc, which I'm fairly certain it depends on.  It's
> > also not suitable as a system programming language and they dropped that
> > claim from their propaganda some time ago.
> > 
> 
> go has its own independent world (own toolchain, syscall wrappers,
> runtime, calling convention, stack management etc) but it can interact
> with libc through cgo
> 
> so the question might be if anyone has tried cgo with musl
> and i guess nobody tried but it should work since cgo does
> not make much assumptions about the c runtime
> 
> go is special in this respect, most other language runtime
> implementations build on top of libc so the interaction
> between c and said language is less trivial
> 
> (there are some caveats in go as well: it does not call
> __libc_start_main on startup nor exit on exit so eg atexit
> handlers wont get called)

The idea of calling functions in libc without __libc_start_main ever
having been called sounds highly misguided and potentially dangerous.
In musl it might mostly work, but with glibc I don't see how it could
possibly work.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-24 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-21 16:30 LM
2013-04-21 20:17 ` Rob Landley
2013-04-21 20:24 ` Rob Landley
2013-04-24 11:39   ` LM
2013-04-25 19:30     ` Rob Landley
2013-04-21 23:26 ` Isaac Dunham
2013-04-22 14:53 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-22 15:21   ` Luca Barbato
2013-04-22 16:40     ` LM
2013-04-22 16:47       ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-22 22:07         ` Rich Felker
2013-04-23 12:50           ` LM
2013-04-23 14:40             ` John Spencer
2013-04-23 14:58               ` Rich Felker
2013-04-22 19:31       ` Luca Barbato
2013-04-22 23:24       ` Rob Landley
2013-04-22 23:31         ` Rich Felker
2013-04-23  0:54           ` Rob Landley
2013-04-23  1:46             ` Rich Felker
2013-04-23  5:04               ` Isaac Dunham
2013-04-23 13:47                 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-23 21:25                   ` Luca Barbato
2013-04-23 21:50                   ` Kurt H Maier
2013-04-24  2:37                     ` Rich Felker
2013-04-24  4:43                       ` Kurt H Maier
2013-04-24 13:37                         ` Rich Felker
2013-04-24  0:50                   ` idunham
2013-04-24  6:11                 ` Rob Landley
2013-04-22 21:52     ` Rich Felker
2013-04-22 22:42       ` Luca Barbato
2013-04-22 23:06         ` Rich Felker
2013-04-23  0:26           ` Luca Barbato
2013-04-23  2:14             ` Rob Landley
2013-04-23 19:07               ` Strake
2013-04-23 19:24                 ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-23 21:33                   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-04-24 12:12                     ` Zvi Gilboa
2013-04-23 21:34               ` Luca Barbato
2013-04-24 11:18                 ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-24 11:48                   ` Kurt H Maier
2013-04-24 12:32                     ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-24 13:38                       ` Rich Felker
2013-04-24 13:55                         ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-24 13:37                     ` go support (was: Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries?) John Spencer
2013-04-24 13:39                       ` Rich Felker
2013-04-24 16:33                       ` Kurt H Maier
2013-04-24 15:47                     ` Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries? Szabolcs Nagy
2013-04-24 19:17                       ` Rich Felker [this message]
2013-04-25  6:40                         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-04-25 19:37                     ` Rob Landley
2013-04-24 13:28                   ` go support (was: Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries?) John Spencer
2013-04-24 13:42                     ` Rich Felker
2013-04-24 14:06                   ` Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries? Christian Neukirchen
2013-04-29 11:41                     ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-29 16:31                       ` Go (was: [musl] Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries?) John Spencer
2013-04-29 16:44                         ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-23  0:31       ` Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries? Rob Landley

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