From: Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: GLOB_BRACE
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 15:21:20 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130923152120.Horde.6WaaRM8ON74-egjs3KhCMw3@ssl.eumx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130923150323.GH20515@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
Quoting Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>:
> The problem is that, for the audience it's designed for, systemd is a
> big step up. Previously they were using hideous bash scripts full of
> pidfile races for starting and stopping services, etc.
>
The correct answer would have been to fix the services, rather than invent
a more complicated bandaid to cover the problem. Unfortunately Red Hat in
particular has determined a one-size-fits all approach is best, and then
focused their engineering on desktop-oriented software, which leaves us with
ugly hacks like initrd and systemd even on systems for which those bandaids
are wholly inappropriate.
We're stuck with systemd at least for the lifespan of RHEL7, although I
expect workarounds to emerge very quickly around the time RHEL6 nears EOL.
khm
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-23 15:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-15 20:57 GLOB_BRACE Paul Schutte
2013-09-16 12:50 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-16 13:40 ` GLOB_BRACE Paul Schutte
2013-09-16 13:47 ` GLOB_BRACE Justin Cormack
2013-09-16 13:51 ` GLOB_BRACE Luca Barbato
2013-09-16 14:18 ` GLOB_BRACE Paul Schutte
2013-09-23 14:08 ` GLOB_BRACE Rob Landley
2013-09-23 14:35 ` GLOB_BRACE Luca Barbato
2013-09-23 15:03 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-23 15:21 ` Kurt H Maier [this message]
2013-09-23 15:27 ` GLOB_BRACE Luca Barbato
2013-09-25 22:46 ` GLOB_BRACE Paul Schutte
2013-09-26 0:02 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-26 3:35 ` GLOB_BRACE Luca Barbato
2013-09-26 4:48 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-26 18:23 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-26 18:30 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-26 18:38 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-26 18:50 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-26 18:59 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-26 19:10 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-26 19:13 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-26 19:24 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-26 19:06 ` GLOB_BRACE John Spencer
2013-09-26 20:21 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-26 20:41 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-27 12:23 ` GLOB_BRACE Anthony G. Basile
2013-09-27 12:53 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-27 13:06 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-29 21:51 ` GLOB_BRACE Anthony G. Basile
2013-09-29 21:57 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-26 19:16 ` GLOB_BRACE Christian Neukirchen
2013-09-23 15:18 ` GLOB_BRACE Rob Landley
2013-09-23 15:31 ` GLOB_BRACE Kurt H Maier
2013-09-23 15:54 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-23 17:22 ` GLOB_BRACE Rob Landley
2013-09-23 19:55 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
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