From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/4262 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rich Felker Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Pending patches/issues before 0.9.15 release? Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:44:59 -0500 Message-ID: <20131121194459.GS24286@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <20131121013056.GA2128@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <528DD529.4030408@skarnet.org> <20131121163911.GP24286@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <528E5EB9.1080400@skarnet.org> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385063110 14971 80.91.229.3 (21 Nov 2013 19:45:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:45:10 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-4266-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Thu Nov 21 20:45:15 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjaBe-000623-4i for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 20:45:14 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 28337 invoked by uid 550); 21 Nov 2013 19:45:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 28329 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2013 19:45:11 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <528E5EB9.1080400@skarnet.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:4262 Archived-At: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 07:27:53PM +0000, Laurent Bercot wrote: > >I'm not familiar with the "right/" timezones and they're difficult to > >google for -- please give me a reference for what they are, if you > >can. However, musl only uses zoneinfo for timezone/daylight-time > >purposes, not for any sort of adjustment between POSIX/calendar time > >and UTC(w/leap-seconds) and/or TAI. Perhaps this is the source of the > >discrepency. > > The short version of what right/ timezones are is explained here: > http://www.madore.org/~david/computers/unix-leap-seconds.html#tai-minus-10 Thanks for the info. > The difference between glibc and musl is 25 seconds, not 35 as I wrote, > which seems to indicate that musl's gmtime()/localtime() does not take leap > second tables, which are defined in right/ timezones, into account. > I would really love that to be fixed - maybe not for 0.9.15, but for 0.9.16 > if possible, because I'm a hardcore TAI-10 user. I'm a pretty hardcore anti-leapseconds / pro-POSIX-seconds guy, so if you'd like to make any progress here, maybe you could do some research into whether/how the features you want could be supported non-invasively. Rich