From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/4311 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rich Felker Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: IPv4 and IPv6 addresses in resolv.conf Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 12:01:12 -0500 Message-ID: <20131130170112.GR24286@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <761df492-c2ee-41d5-84f8-faef313164bf@email.android.com> <20131129174410.GD24286@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20131130003704.GL24286@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20131130031744.GM24286@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20131130035116.GO24286@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20131130035912.GP24286@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385830879 5395 80.91.229.3 (30 Nov 2013 17:01:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 17:01:19 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-4315-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Sat Nov 30 18:01:25 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vmnv2-0001no-Rn for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 18:01:24 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 30293 invoked by uid 550); 30 Nov 2013 17:01:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 30285 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2013 17:01:23 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:4311 Archived-At: On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 09:16:54AM +0000, Justin Cormack wrote: > On 30 Nov 2013 03:59, "Rich Felker" wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:51:16PM -0500, Rich Felker wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:45:26PM -0500, Strake wrote: > > > > On 29/11/2013, Rich Felker wrote: > > > > > But that would mean complete unconditional DNS failure on systems > > > > > lacking IPv6. > > > > > > > > We could do so iff system has IPv6. Switching on whether system has > > > > IPv6 rather than whether resolv.conf has any IPv6 nameservers means > > > > * no check whether resolv.conf includes v6 server > > > > * that adding a v6 server to resolv.conf can not break DNS even on > > > > systems lacking v6 > > > > which seems saner. > > > > > > OK, so how do we detect if the system "has IPv6"? I don't think it's > > > > BTW, short of an answer to this question, I think the approach I > > already suggested is rather safe. I can't imagine how an IPv6 > > nameserver address would end up in resolv.conf on a system completely > > lacking IPv6 support at the kernel level. > > I can imagine how it got there eg if you have a standard config or you > compile a new kernel and omit ipv6... Indeed, this is conceivable. However, if the system is intended to be used on an IPv6 network and you compile without IPv6 in the kernel, lots of things will break and you probably just need to fix the kernel. Still I'd like to avoid more breakage here than necessary. Can you (or anyone) fill me in on how things fail on a system built without IPv6 support or with broken IPv6 configuration? I assume the original socket() call will fail (with what errno?) if IPv6 support is not even compiled into the kernel, but are there other cases where socket() might succeed but then sending to a v4-mapped address would fail (where sending to the same v4 address with a v4 socket would work)? The fallback scheme I'm thinking of using is something like: if (have_any_v6_nameservers) { if (socket(PF_INET6, ...) && errno=EAFNOSUPPORT) { disable any v6 nameservers open and use v4 socket } v4-map all v4 nameservers use v6 socket } else { open and use v4 socket } Does this look reasonable? Rich