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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Explaining cond var destroy [Re: [musl] C threads, v3.0]
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:15:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140806231539.GE1674@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1407365015.24324.334.camel@eris.loria.fr>

On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 12:43:35AM +0200, Jens Gustedt wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 06.08.2014, 18:04 -0400 schrieb Rich Felker:
> > No. The problem is that the memory in which the cond var resides could
> > previously have been used for a mutex, semaphore, or other object for
> > which a futex wait arrives "very late" due to scheduling. It has
> > nothing to do with the destruction of cond vars.
> 
> Hm, but then we have a problem on the side that has this late wait,
> that is an access to a dead object. So the UB is there, in that thread
> that is doing the wait. (Suppose it is just threads and not processes,
> that would even be more complicated.) That spurious wakeup that you
> are talking about is a consequence of UB.

No, it's not. The wait happens prior to the deallocation, in the same
thread that performs the deallocation. The interleaving looks like
this:

Thread A                        Thread B
--------                        --------
waiters++
                                save waiters count
                                atomic unlock
futex wait fails with EAGAIN
cas succeeds & gets lock
waiters--
[unlock operation]
[free operation]
                                futex wake to freed address

The free operation in thread A is valid since A knows it is the last
user of the mutex and thread B's use/ownership of the mutex formally
ends with the atomic unlock.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-06 23:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-04  9:30 C threads, v3.0 Jens Gustedt
2014-08-04  9:33 ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-04 14:50 ` Rich Felker
2014-08-04 16:48   ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-04 17:06     ` Rich Felker
2014-08-04 22:16       ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-04 22:36         ` Rich Felker
2014-08-06  3:52 ` Explaining cond var destroy [Re: [musl] C threads, v3.0] Rich Felker
2014-08-06  8:43   ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-06  9:41     ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-06 10:03       ` Rich Felker
2014-08-06 10:32         ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-06 16:15           ` Rich Felker
2014-08-06 16:56             ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-06 17:32               ` Rich Felker
2014-08-06 20:55                 ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-06 22:04                   ` Rich Felker
2014-08-06 22:43                     ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-06 23:15                       ` Rich Felker [this message]
2014-08-07  7:50                         ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-07 10:52                           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2014-08-07 11:03                             ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-07 16:13                           ` Rich Felker
2014-08-07 16:47                             ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-07 17:25                               ` Rich Felker
2014-08-08  9:20                                 ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-08 16:53                                   ` Rich Felker
2014-08-08 19:14                                   ` Rich Felker
2014-08-08 20:48                                     ` Rich Felker
2014-08-09  6:47                                       ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-12  2:50                                         ` Rich Felker
2014-08-12  7:04                                           ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-12 16:01                                             ` Rich Felker
2014-08-12 19:09                                               ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-12 21:18                                                 ` Rich Felker
2014-08-13  6:43                                                   ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-13  7:19                                                     ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-06  9:50     ` Rich Felker

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