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From: u-igbb@aetey.se
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: variadic args (was: [musl] compiling musl on x86_64 linux with pcc)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:55:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140828165507.GS12376@example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140828144032.GX12888@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:40:32AM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> compiler-provided stdarg.h from every possible compiler.
> 
> Note that this is actually complex in practice (there are lots of
> variants!) while the __builtin_va_* stuff is not complex in practice
> (tcc is the only example anyone's given where the uniform
> __builtin_va_* stuff doesn't work).

Indeed, you actually convinced me that e.g. fulfilling the symbol
visibility constraints (to be fully standard compliant) is not easily
provided with a "simplistic" approach.

So, reasoning in the practical terms, the reliance on builtins is the
best fit for efficient and consistent musl development.

I am otherwise satisfied with workarounds (working and good enough
for my practical needs - the applications usually disregard a lot more
standards than my setup :) for the sometimes "weird" compilers I happen
to deal with, so this issue is in no way a showstopper here.

Thanks for your time in the discussion Rich.

Best regards,
Rune



  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-28 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-13  9:18 compiling musl on x86_64 linux with ppc u-igbb
2014-08-13  9:29 ` "pcc" of course ([musl] compiling musl on x86_64 linux with ppc) u-igbb
2014-08-13  9:49 ` compiling musl on x86_64 linux with ppc Szabolcs Nagy
2014-08-13 10:25   ` compiling musl on x86_64 linux with pcc u-igbb
2014-08-13 11:22     ` u-igbb
2014-08-13 11:53       ` summary: [musl] " u-igbb
2014-08-13 12:38 ` compiling musl on x86_64 linux with ppc Rich Felker
2014-08-13 12:56   ` u-igbb
2014-08-13 14:23     ` Rich Felker
2014-08-13 14:43       ` compiling musl on x86_64 linux with pcc u-igbb
2014-08-13 14:43       ` compiling musl on x86_64 linux with ppc Szabolcs Nagy
2014-08-14  7:10       ` compiling musl on x86_64 linux with pcc u-igbb
2014-08-14 14:20         ` Rich Felker
2014-08-14 14:38           ` u-igbb
2014-08-14 14:47             ` Rich Felker
2014-08-14 15:00               ` u-igbb
2014-08-15 10:49               ` va_list (was: [musl] compiling musl on x86_64 linux with pcc) u-igbb
2014-08-15 13:44                 ` Rich Felker
2014-08-15 15:07                   ` u-igbb
2014-08-15 15:56                     ` Rich Felker
2014-08-15 17:12                       ` u-igbb
2014-08-15  8:05       ` compiling musl on x86_64 linux with ppc u-igbb
2014-08-25  8:28       ` compiling musl on x86_64 linux with pcc u-igbb
2014-08-25  8:34         ` u-igbb
2014-08-25 15:46           ` Rich Felker
2014-08-26 19:34             ` u-igbb
2014-08-26 19:54               ` Rich Felker
2014-08-27  7:40                 ` u-igbb
2014-08-27  7:54                   ` Rich Felker
2014-08-27  8:52                     ` variadic args (was: [musl] compiling musl on x86_64 linux with pcc) u-igbb
2014-08-27 16:34                       ` Rich Felker
2014-08-28  8:13                         ` u-igbb
2014-08-28 14:40                           ` Rich Felker
2014-08-28 16:55                             ` u-igbb [this message]
2014-08-27 14:38             ` compiling musl with pcc (i486-pc-linux-gnu) " u-igbb
2014-08-27 16:36               ` Rich Felker
2014-09-23 19:05             ` compiling musl on x86_64 linux with pcc u-igbb
2014-09-23 19:31               ` Rich Felker
2014-09-24  8:26                 ` u-igbb
2014-08-13 23:39     ` compiling musl on x86_64 linux with ppc Isaac Dunham
2014-08-13 23:41       ` Rich Felker

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