From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/6753 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Szabolcs Nagy Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Call for ideas for future musl-related talks Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 01:29:30 +0100 Message-ID: <20141229002929.GC3156@port70.net> References: <20141215050432.GA20413@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419812991 6945 80.91.229.3 (29 Dec 2014 00:29:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 00:29:51 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-6766-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Mon Dec 29 01:29:45 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5ODQ-0001Fd-I5 for gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 01:29:44 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 21610 invoked by uid 550); 29 Dec 2014 00:29:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 21600 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2014 00:29:41 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: musl@lists.openwall.com Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:6753 Archived-At: * Justin Cormack [2014-12-28 16:24:43 +0000]: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Rich Felker wrote: > > After having done a couple conference talks already at Ohio LinuxFest > > 2013 and 2014, I'm considering pursuing more conferences, but I'm not > > sure what topics/framing would be most interesting and effective at > > getting more people interested in musl. If there's anything special > > you'd like to hear me give a talk on, or think would be constructive > > to the project, reply and let me know. > > Apologies for not getting back sooner. > > I think the most interesting topic for a talk for a generalist > audience is to cover the kinds of bugs you write about on ewontfix. (I > wouldn't talk about systemd though, it is too partisan for people to > listen clearly). > > The focus should be around techniques for writing better software, > better specifications, and how to find problematic areas. And about > how writing tests for these things is hard, because a lot of them are > races, although talking about where tests do and dont work is good > too. > my whishlist is - why do posix and c matter in the age of web/mobile/cloud - good/bad/ugly parts of posix/linux/toolchain from libc pov - metrics (benchmarks, size, complexity, amount of libc code executed in various use-cases, time spent in libc, etc)