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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: "libc-alpha@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	"arnd@arndb.de" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"pinskia@gmail.com" <pinskia@gmail.com>,
	"musl@lists.openwall.com" <musl@lists.openwall.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Pinski <apinski@cavium.com>,
	Marcus Shawcroft <Marcus.Shawcroft@arm.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 00/24] ILP32 support in ARM64
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:37:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150213183706.GF23507@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150213173345.GA26217@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 05:33:46PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > The data structure definition is a little bit fragile, as it depends on
> > > > user space not using the __BIT_ENDIAN symbol in a conflicting way. So
> > > > far we have managed to keep that outside of general purpose headers, but
> > > > it should at least blow up in an obvious way if it does, rather than
> > > > breaking silently.
> > > > 
> > > > I still think it's more practical to keep the zeroing in user space though.
> > > > In that case, we keep defining __kernel_timespec64 with a 'typedef long
> > > > long __kernel_snseconds_t', and it's up to the libc to either use
> > > > __kernel_timespec64 as its timespec, or to define a C11-compliant
> > > > timespec itself and zero out the bits before passing the data to the kernel.
> > > 
> > > The problem with doing this in user space is syscall(2). If we don't
> > > allow it, then it's fine to do the padding in libc.
> > 
> > It's already the case that callers have to tiptoe around syscall(2)
> > usage on a per-arch basis for silly things like the convention for
> > passing 64-bit arguments on 32-bit archs, different arg orders to work
> > around 64-bit alignment and issues with too many args, and various
> > legacy issues. So I think manual use of syscall(2) is a less-critical
> > issue, though of course from a libc perspective I would very much like
> > for the kernel to handle it right.
> 
> I think there is another problem with sign-extending tv_nsec in libc.
> The prototype for functions like clock_settime(2) take a const struct
> timespec *. There isn't anything to prevent such structure being in a
> read-only section, even though it is unlikely. So libc would have to
> duplicate the structure rather than just sign-extending tv_nsec in
> place.

Yes, we already have to do this for x32 in musl. I'd rather not have
to do the same for aarch64-ILP32.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-13 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20141002155217.GH32147@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
2015-02-10 18:13 ` Rich Felker
2015-02-11 17:39   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-02-11 19:05     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-02-11 19:22       ` [musl] " H.J. Lu
2015-02-11 19:50       ` arnd
2015-02-11 20:12         ` Rich Felker
2015-02-11 20:47           ` Jens Gustedt
2015-02-11 21:02           ` arnd
2015-02-11 21:09             ` arnd
2015-02-11 21:37             ` [musl] " Rich Felker
2015-02-16 17:20               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-16 17:51                 ` [musl] " Rich Felker
2015-02-16 19:38                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-12  8:12       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-02-12 17:07         ` Catalin Marinas
2015-02-11 19:21     ` Rich Felker
2015-02-12 18:17       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-02-12 18:59         ` arnd
2015-02-13 13:33           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-02-13 16:30             ` Rich Felker
2015-02-13 17:33               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-02-13 18:37                 ` Rich Felker [this message]
2015-02-16 14:40                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-16 15:38                     ` Rich Felker
2015-02-16 16:54                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-11 18:33   ` H.J. Lu
2015-02-11 19:02     ` Rich Felker
2015-02-11 19:16       ` H.J. Lu
2015-02-11 19:25         ` Rich Felker
2015-02-11 19:34           ` H.J. Lu
2015-02-11 19:47             ` Rich Felker
2015-02-11 19:57               ` H.J. Lu
2015-02-11 20:15                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-12 15:50                   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-02-12 16:13                     ` Rich Felker
2015-02-12 16:30                     ` H.J. Lu
2015-02-12 17:00                       ` Rich Felker
2015-02-11 21:41       ` Joseph Myers
2015-02-11 19:04     ` Josiah Worcester

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