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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Konstantin Serebryany <konstantin.s.serebryany@gmail.com>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: buffer overflow in regcomp and a way to find more of those
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 21:56:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150321015619.GU23507@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGQ9bdxWaaUBv3gmDE3meSaibjJiUmcAfSae_OTrkky1tjVYLQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 06:37:39PM -0700, Konstantin Serebryany wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 06:05:04PM -0700, Konstantin Serebryany wrote:
> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 05:54:49PM -0700, Konstantin Serebryany wrote:
> >> >> >> > > the question is how hard it is to do (1) ?
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > i assume asan is non-trivial to set up for that (or is it
> >> >> >> > > enough to replace malloc calls? and some startup logic?)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > asan replaces malloc and a few more libc functions.
> >> >> >> > It works with various different libcs, so there is a good chance that
> >> >> >> > it will work here with no or minimal changes.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ok i'll try it
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I would guess it works with no change for static linking, but some
> >> >> > changes might be needed for dynamic linking. I'm perfectly happy with
> >> >> > all the fuzzing being done with static linking anyway; I don't think
> >> >> > dynamic linking would have significant additional code paths whose
> >> >> > coverage need checking.
> >> >>
> >> >> sadly, asan does not support fully static linking.
> >> >
> >> > Is this just an oversight or something fundamental that's hard to fix?
> >>
> >> Quite fundamental.
> >> asan needs to be able to intercept certain libc functions and on all
> >> platforms (linux, android, OSX, Windows, etc) it works only when libc
> >> itself is dynamically linked.
> >
> > But if you're compiling libc itself with asan, couldn't it just
> > hard-insert the interception code into the implementations of these
> > functions during compiling?
> 
> I think it could, it's just quite a bit of work to do. :(
> We may end up doing it eventually as I hope to use instrumented glibc
> whenever we can,
> and at that point intercepting functions from glibc will become rather
> silly. But we are not there yet.

Sorry to keep bombarding you with questions. One more: is it only asan
that needs dynamic linking? If we're willing to drop asan for now and
just rely on musl itself crashing for heap corruption (musl does a
good job of detecting it usually), can the necessary coverage stuff
still work with static linking?

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-21  1:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-20 20:17 Konstantin Serebryany
2015-03-20 20:40 ` Rich Felker
2015-03-20 21:28 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-20 23:48   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-20 22:32 ` Rich Felker
2015-03-20 23:52 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-21  0:06   ` Konstantin Serebryany
2015-03-21  0:26     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-21  0:46       ` Rich Felker
2015-03-21  0:54         ` Konstantin Serebryany
2015-03-21  1:00           ` Rich Felker
2015-03-21  1:05             ` Konstantin Serebryany
2015-03-21  1:10               ` Konstantin Serebryany
2015-03-21  1:23                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-21  1:30                   ` Rich Felker
2015-03-21  2:10                     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-21  2:17                       ` Rich Felker
2015-03-21  1:32               ` Rich Felker
2015-03-21  1:37                 ` Konstantin Serebryany
2015-03-21  1:56                   ` Rich Felker [this message]
2015-03-21  2:14                     ` Konstantin Serebryany
2015-03-21  2:20                       ` Rich Felker
2015-03-21  6:05                         ` Konstantin Serebryany
2015-03-21 13:28                           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-21 21:03                             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-21 21:38                               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-21 22:13                                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-22  6:36                                   ` Justin Cormack
2015-03-23  5:02                               ` Konstantin Serebryany
2015-03-23 12:25                                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-23 15:56                                   ` Konstantin Serebryany
2015-03-23  4:55                             ` Konstantin Serebryany
2015-03-23 12:35                               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-23 14:40                                 ` stephen Turner
2015-03-23 14:53                                   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-23 15:46                                     ` stephen Turner
2015-03-23 16:28                                       ` Rich Felker
2015-03-23 17:21                                         ` Nathan McSween
2015-03-28 22:00                                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-03-28 22:32                                   ` Konstantin Serebryany
2015-03-28 22:38                                     ` Rich Felker
2015-03-28 23:15                                       ` Szabolcs Nagy

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