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From: u-wsnj@aetey.se
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Cc: busybox <busybox@busybox.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Busybox on musl is affected by CVE-2015-1817
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 09:41:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150401074116.GN23636@example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150331234810.GN6817@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 07:48:10PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> > > 2. Reconsider the rejection of the patch to add SOCK_DGRAM support for
> > >    ping, which allows it to run without root.
> > 
> > This seems to lead to a significantly larger code.
> 
> I don't recall the exact amount, but given that busybox's suid
> framework is not taking any precautions to mitigate the risks of suid
> (not to mention that eliminating all suids is a goal of some
> security-conscious systems integrators)

Yes it is here (the goal).

Suid is a very old and nowadays quite redundant tool, mostly holding
ground due to its "simplicity" (say, compared to talking to a daemon)
and to the tradition. Seen from a different perspective, it is from the
pre-network epoch ("the computer is the universe") and enforces among
others hardcoded paths - which is a PITA for reusable and globally
placed software.

> I think it would be worth it
> even if it doubled the size of the ping utility (which it does not).

+1

Rune



  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-01  7:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-30  5:31 Rich Felker
2015-03-31 19:07 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-03-31 23:11   ` Justin Cormack
2015-03-31 23:51     ` Rich Felker
2015-03-31 23:48   ` Rich Felker
2015-04-01  7:41     ` u-wsnj [this message]
2015-04-01  7:52       ` Raphael Cohn
2015-04-01  8:11       ` Harald Becker
2015-04-01  8:49         ` u-wsnj
2015-04-02 13:56           ` Harald Becker
2015-04-02 17:26             ` Рысь
2015-04-02 18:16               ` Harald Becker
2015-04-03  4:40                 ` Рысь
2015-04-04  5:35                   ` Harald Becker
2015-04-02 18:36               ` u-wsnj
2015-04-03  4:51                 ` Рысь
2015-04-03 10:31                   ` [OT] setuid (Re: Busybox on musl is affected by CVE-2015-1817) u-wsnj
2015-04-02 15:38           ` Re: Busybox on musl is affected by CVE-2015-1817 Rich Felker
2015-04-02 18:02             ` u-wsnj

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