From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/7497 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rich Felker Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Still not possible to send mail to domain libc.org Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 15:59:59 -0400 Message-ID: <20150423195959.GH17573@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <55393C1F.6060900@gmx.de> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429819233 3543 80.91.229.3 (23 Apr 2015 20:00:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 20:00:33 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-7510-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Thu Apr 23 22:00:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YlNID-0006IW-Qv for gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 22:00:13 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 24490 invoked by uid 550); 23 Apr 2015 20:00:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 24465 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2015 20:00:11 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55393C1F.6060900@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Original-Sender: Rich Felker Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:7497 Archived-At: On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 08:38:23PM +0200, Harald Becker wrote: > Hi Rich, > > it is still not possible for me to send any mail to the domain > libc.org. You can't just state this is not a failure on your side > and then ignore the rest of the thread. > > The failing part is not on my side, it is the mail relay of the > qmail system, of a major provider in Germany, rejecting the > messages. This is out of my control to change anything on their > systems. I'm not sure whether this is a bug in qmail or the recursive server the qmail host is using -- one of them is wrongly treating timeouts as nxdomain rather than as transient failures. However I agree this is a serious quality of hosting issue with my registrar's nameservers. They should not be timing out or dropping packets like they are. I was able to reproduce the issue. So for now I'm just going to move dns hosting for libc.org to my own nameserver. Rich