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From: Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net>
To: John Sully <john@csquare.ca>
Cc: luoyonggang@gmail.com, blees@dcon.de, musl@lists.openwall.com,
	dplakosh@cert.org, austin-group-l@opengroup.org,
	hsutter@microsoft.com, Clang Dev <cfe-dev@cs.uiuc.edu>,
	James McNellis <james@jamesmcnellis.com>
Subject: Re: [cfe-dev] Is that getting wchar_t to be 32bit on win32 a good idea for compatible with Unix world by implement posix layer on win32 API?
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 12:36:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150509103645.GG29035@port70.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACVf4-6i_PNsetdeeY0nW=uASVGp=_yox40vL-iL4U8KWMoyXA@mail.gmail.com>

* John Sully <john@csquare.ca> [2015-05-09 00:55:12 -0700]:
> In my opinion you almost never want 32-bit wide characters once you learn
> of their limitations.  Most people assume that if they use them they can
> return to the one character -> one glyph idiom like ASCII.  But Unicode is

wchar_t must be at least 21 bits on a system that spports unicode
in any locale: it has to be able to represent all code points of the
supported character set.

in practice this means that the only conforming definition to iso c
(and thus posix, c++ and other standards based on c) is a 32bit wchar_t
(the signedness can be choosen freely).

so the definition is not based on what "you almost never want" or what
"most people assume".

if the goal is to provide a posix implementation then 16bit wchar_t
is not an option (assuming the system wants to be able to communicate
with the external world that uses unicode text).


  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-09 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-09  3:16 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-09  3:32 ` Rich Felker
2015-05-09  3:36   ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
     [not found] ` <CAE2XoE_vO83dVqmJ3xRb9md8H=EO0j723Ycwqijo1To88iGueA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-09  7:55   ` John Sully
2015-05-09 10:36     ` Szabolcs Nagy [this message]
     [not found]       ` <20150509103645.GG29035-4P1ElwuDYu6sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-09 11:19         ` [cfe-dev] " 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-09 20:05           ` Rich Felker
2015-05-10 12:19             ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-10 12:31             ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-10 13:42               ` Rich Felker
     [not found]                 ` <20150510134230.GN17573-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-10 14:15                   ` [musl] " 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-10 15:30                     ` Rich Felker
     [not found]               ` <CAE2XoE8ARm6BkarKYspPK_uDkePw8PewHXPWRXmT+mGM5mwEaw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-11  1:47                 ` [musl] " Mike Frysinger
2015-05-11  3:25                   ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-11 10:27                   ` [musl] " Joerg Schilling
2015-05-12  3:21                     ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-10 18:47 ` Karsten Blees

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