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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: "罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo)" <luoyonggang@gmail.com>
Cc: John Sully <john@csquare.ca>, Karsten Blees <blees@dcon.de>,
	musl@lists.openwall.com, dplakosh@cert.org,
	austin-group-l@opengroup.org, hsutter@microsoft.com,
	Clang Dev <cfe-dev@cs.uiuc.edu>,
	James McNellis <james@jamesmcnellis.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [cfe-dev] Is that getting wchar_t to be 32bit on win32 a good idea for compatible with Unix world by implement posix layer on win32 API?
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 09:42:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150510134230.GN17573@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE2XoE8ARm6BkarKYspPK_uDkePw8PewHXPWRXmT+mGM5mwEaw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 08:31:54PM +0800, 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo)  wrote:
> For example, the open function exist both in msvcrt and posix,
> int open(const char *path, int oflag, ...);
> 
> But in msvcrt, the path is ANSI encoding, and in posix, path is utf8 encoding,
> 
> So if we need to developing a cross-platform application, On Win32,
> the open function should not be used.
> But in fact, there is no openw(const wchar*path) API in posix or Win32,
> So we need to re-implement open function on win32 with the same API,
> and convert to
> the wchar_t version of Window 32 API, _wopen,
> That's would be a chaos for those developers want to use open function
> in both posix and win32.

I assumed you were already planning for your POSIX layer an open
function which takes a UTF-8 string and converts it transparently to
whatever encoding (i.e. UTF-16) the underlying Windows operations
need. If you don't have that, then you're a step behind even Cygwin
and significantly behind midipix in terms of the ability to provide a
POSIX+Unicode environment that can run existing POSIX-targeted
applications unmodified. Anyone wanting Unicode filename support would
have to fill their codebase with Windows-specific openw() calls, which
is basically the same situation you have now on Windows.

> And if we turn the wchar_t to be 32 bit on win32,
> first, posix still have no wide version of open function
> second, to implement open function on win32, we need to consider the
> fact wchar_t is 32bit now, and should re-use the exist _wopen in
> a different way and all other exist wide version of Win32 API.

I don't follow what you're saying here.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-10 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-09  3:16 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-09  3:32 ` Rich Felker
2015-05-09  3:36   ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
     [not found] ` <CAE2XoE_vO83dVqmJ3xRb9md8H=EO0j723Ycwqijo1To88iGueA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-09  7:55   ` John Sully
2015-05-09 10:36     ` [cfe-dev] " Szabolcs Nagy
     [not found]       ` <20150509103645.GG29035-4P1ElwuDYu6sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-09 11:19         ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-09 20:05           ` Rich Felker
2015-05-10 12:19             ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-10 12:31             ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-10 13:42               ` Rich Felker [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <20150510134230.GN17573-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-10 14:15                   ` [musl] " 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-10 15:30                     ` Rich Felker
     [not found]               ` <CAE2XoE8ARm6BkarKYspPK_uDkePw8PewHXPWRXmT+mGM5mwEaw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-11  1:47                 ` [musl] " Mike Frysinger
2015-05-11  3:25                   ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-11 10:27                   ` [musl] " Joerg Schilling
2015-05-12  3:21                     ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) 
2015-05-10 18:47 ` Karsten Blees

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