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From: Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Deduplicating atomics written in terms of CAS
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 12:19:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150518101933.GD11258@port70.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1431901387.4219.7.camel@inria.fr>

* Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@inria.fr> [2015-05-18 00:23:07 +0200]:
> 
> The advantage of C11's model for atomic is that this a qualifier, and
> then the compiler automatically checks (or ensures) that all accesses
> are atomic. We don't have that luxury, here, but we could get a bit
> closer to it.
> 

the qualifierness of atomic is a bit confusing

differently qualified types had the same alignment and representation
so far and in some cases pointers to differently qualified types are
implicitly convertible (eg assigning char* to const char* is ok).

atomic is special: when the standard says 'qualified or unqualified type'
it does not include _Atomic even though it is called a qualifier.
(atomic is always mentioned explicitly, it can have different representation
and alignment to allow implementation with locks and thus the pointers
cannot be convertible)

annotating everything with _Atomic in musl is problematic because the
atomic bits are publicly visible in pthread types (we could use _Atomic
only when building musl, but i think its usefulness should be demonstrated
with examples etc before doing something that ugly.. having a_load_relaxed
without typesystem help does not sound very useful)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-18 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-17  4:55 Rich Felker
2015-05-17  6:00 ` Alexander Monakov
2015-05-17  6:14   ` Rich Felker
2015-05-17  7:37     ` Jens Gustedt
2015-05-17 16:28       ` Rich Felker
2015-05-17 16:59         ` Jens Gustedt
2015-05-17 17:59           ` Rich Felker
2015-05-17 22:23             ` Jens Gustedt
2015-05-17 22:33               ` Rich Felker
2015-05-17 23:22                 ` Jens Gustedt
2015-05-18 10:19               ` Szabolcs Nagy [this message]
2015-05-18 11:03                 ` Jens Gustedt
2015-05-17  6:49 ` Jens Gustedt
2015-05-17 16:22   ` Rich Felker
2015-05-17 17:19     ` Jens Gustedt

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