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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Zack Weinberg <zackw@panix.com>
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Compiler support for erasure of sensitive data
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:13:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150909171337.GH17773@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKCAbMjpOAzS-vHfy27BxHikUeaRziZ1hhmWLX_F2Gt9ajgE7g@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 12:47:10PM -0400, Zack Weinberg wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> > You're making this harder than it needs to be. The "m" constraint is
> > the wrong thing to use here. Simply use:
> >
> >         __asm__(""::"r"(ptr):"memory");
> 
> Please review my earlier conversation with Adhemerval on exactly this point.

My understanding is that you consider this a "big hammer". Does that
really matter if the intent is that it only be used in isolated,
sensitive contexts? Are you just unhappy with the performance cost, or
concerned that the clobber will cause more spilling of sensitive data?
I'm doubtful that this would happen because a "memory" clobber does
not affect all data cached in registers, only data which is
potentially reachable by the asm.

In any case, I think the intent of my reply was unclear. I did not
mean to detract from the idea of compiler support for handling of
sensitive data, just to point out that the hack with the "m"
constraint is wrong and easily fixed. It still may be possible to get
much better results via other means.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-09 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-09 16:36 Zack Weinberg
2015-09-09 16:39 ` Fwd: " Zack Weinberg
2015-09-09 16:41   ` Zack Weinberg
2015-09-09 16:42 ` Rich Felker
2015-09-09 16:47   ` [musl] " Zack Weinberg
2015-09-09 17:13     ` Rich Felker [this message]
2015-09-09 18:48       ` Zack Weinberg
2015-09-09 20:05         ` Rich Felker
2015-09-09 16:52 ` Paul_Koning
2015-09-09 16:58   ` Zack Weinberg
2015-09-09 17:25     ` [musl] " Rich Felker
2015-09-09 17:54 ` David Edelsohn
2015-09-09 18:02   ` Paul_Koning
2015-09-09 18:11     ` David Edelsohn
2015-09-09 19:03     ` Zack Weinberg
2015-09-09 20:26       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-10-22 16:02         ` [musl] " Denys Vlasenko
2015-10-22 16:09 ` Denys Vlasenko

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