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From: Kurt H Maier <khm@sdf.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Re: Would love to see reconsideration for domain and search
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:26:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151023052625.GD55813@wopr.sciops.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO_RewaaFU=RmDPHNwpaCg=FsoG+dqr4NV-QXY=fAkVYnsS-Jw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 02:24:11PM -0700, Tim Hockin wrote:
> 
> I understand your point, though the world at large tends to disagree.

The world at large uses bad software.  Please don't use this sort of
reasoning as a justification for and embrace-extend operation on actual
standards.

> The real world is not ideal.  Not all nameservers are identically
> scoped - you MUST respect the ordering in resolv.conf - to do
> otherwise is semantically broken.  If implementation simplicity means
> literally doing queries in serial, then that is what you should do.

You absolutely cannot respect the ordering in resolv.conf; at least not
if you're relying on someone else's resolver.  If the orchestration
software depends on specific results being returned in particular
orders, the orchestration software should provide a mechanism to
generate them. 

> Similarly, you can't just search all search domains in parallel and
> take the first response.  The ordering is meaningful.

It should not be, and more to the point will not reliably be,
meaningful.

You are arguing for introducing performance penalties into musl that do
not affect you but do very much affect lots of other users.  I hope they
do not happen -- musl is not the right place to fix your problem.

khm


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-23  5:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-22 21:24 Tim Hockin
2015-10-22 21:56 ` Rich Felker
2015-10-22 22:36   ` Tim Hockin
2015-10-22 23:00     ` Josiah Worcester
2015-10-22 23:37       ` Tim Hockin
2015-10-23  4:27         ` Rich Felker
2015-10-23  5:13           ` Tim Hockin
2015-10-23  5:31             ` Rich Felker
2015-10-23  5:37               ` Tim Hockin
2015-10-23  6:00                 ` Rich Felker
2015-10-23  6:04                   ` Tim Hockin
2016-01-29  0:57                 ` Rich Felker
2015-10-27  0:30               ` Rich Felker
2015-10-27  0:37                 ` Tim Hockin
2015-10-27  0:45                   ` Rich Felker
2015-10-27  8:11                 ` u-uy74
2015-11-28 22:48                 ` Jan Broer
2015-11-28 23:20                   ` Rich Felker
2015-11-29  3:06                     ` Jan Broer
2016-01-29  0:58                   ` Rich Felker
2015-10-26  2:14           ` Re: Would not " John Levine
2015-10-26  5:14             ` Tim Hockin
2015-10-26 16:16               ` Rich Felker
2015-10-26 17:41                 ` John Levine
2015-10-26 18:08                   ` Rich Felker
2015-10-23  8:12       ` Re: Would " u-uy74
2015-10-23  9:35         ` Laurent Bercot
2015-10-23 12:23           ` Laurent Bercot
2015-10-23 15:57           ` Tim Hockin
2015-10-23  5:26 ` Kurt H Maier [this message]
2015-10-24 21:33   ` Tim Hockin
2015-10-24 21:57     ` Kurt H Maier
2015-10-24 23:31       ` Rich Felker
2015-10-24 22:02     ` Rich Felker
2015-10-24 22:32       ` Tim Hockin
2015-10-25  8:20       ` u-uy74
2015-10-25 13:06       ` Jan Broer
2015-10-25 13:19         ` u-uy74
2015-10-25 13:39           ` Jan Broer
2015-10-25 14:08             ` u-uy74
2015-10-25 19:08         ` Rich Felker
2015-10-26  1:26       ` Isaac Dunham
2015-10-26 15:35         ` Rich Felker
2015-10-23 15:30 Jan Broer

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