From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/8757 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kurt H Maier Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Re: Would love to see reconsideration for domain and search Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:26:25 -0400 Message-ID: <20151023052625.GD55813@wopr.sciops.net> References: Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445714474 4193 80.91.229.3 (24 Oct 2015 19:21:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 19:21:14 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-8770-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Sat Oct 24 21:21:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zq4N8-0001ku-RZ for gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 21:20:59 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 3178 invoked by uid 550); 24 Oct 2015 19:20:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 22075 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2015 05:26:40 -0000 X-Authentication-Warning: wopr.sciops.net: khm set sender to khm@sdf.org using -f Mail-Followup-To: musl@lists.openwall.com Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:8757 Archived-At: On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 02:24:11PM -0700, Tim Hockin wrote: > > I understand your point, though the world at large tends to disagree. The world at large uses bad software. Please don't use this sort of reasoning as a justification for and embrace-extend operation on actual standards. > The real world is not ideal. Not all nameservers are identically > scoped - you MUST respect the ordering in resolv.conf - to do > otherwise is semantically broken. If implementation simplicity means > literally doing queries in serial, then that is what you should do. You absolutely cannot respect the ordering in resolv.conf; at least not if you're relying on someone else's resolver. If the orchestration software depends on specific results being returned in particular orders, the orchestration software should provide a mechanism to generate them. > Similarly, you can't just search all search domains in parallel and > take the first response. The ordering is meaningful. It should not be, and more to the point will not reliably be, meaningful. You are arguing for introducing performance penalties into musl that do not affect you but do very much affect lots of other users. I hope they do not happen -- musl is not the right place to fix your problem. khm