Re: musl & proprietary programs

[Рысь <lynx@lynxlynx.tk>]

On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 12:43:52 -0500
Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 12:22:05AM +0700, Рысь wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 15:48:53 +0100
> > Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > * Alba Pompeo <albapompeo@gmail.com> [2015-12-22 13:37:52 -0200]:
> > > > chroot is a little better than dual-boot, but still very
> > > > unfriendly for a day-to-day usage of many proprietary tools.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > on x86, binaries linked against glibc can be made to work with
> > > musl.
> > > 
> > > but isolating such software into a separate virtual environment
> > > is a good idea anyway and then it's easier to use glibc based
> > > userspace there.
> > 
> > Well that's fine until you will not face something dynamic. A simple
> > example: some of my machines successfully runs LibreOffice 4 inside
> > Slackware 14 chroot. Problems start when user wants to save a
> > document to USB stick. This is a valid use case, but fails because
> > you end up with mounting USB stick twice. This requires wrappers.
> > And in *DE environments they will be lost under pressure of various
> > mount daemons or something like that. But at rest, it works
> > flawlessly.
> > 
> > Maybe Alba Pompeo just faces an issue with wide filesystem tree that
> > needs to be inside chroot.
> 
> I don't see why chroot is necessary at all. If you want a glibc
> environment for a single app you can put all the glibc stuff in its
> own library path and either invoke the binary manually using the glibc
> dynamic linker or have (a symlink to) the glibc dynamic linker in
> /lib. Then it can access the normal filesystem just fine.
> 
> Containers (or just chroot) are of course preferable when you actually
> do want to isolate the program for trust/privilege purposes, but
> they're not a technical requirement for running foreign-libc binaries.
> 
> Rich

And glibc will not pickup random musl linked shared objects from
standard paths (/lib:/usr/lib) from host? To be honest, I did not even
tried just because I do not want to pollute my systems with glibc.

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