From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: string word-at-a-time and atomic.h FAQ on twitter
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 17:59:51 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160108225951.GP238@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56903A8E.90802@openwall.com>
On Sat, Jan 09, 2016 at 01:39:10AM +0300, Alexander Cherepanov wrote:
> >>>>this takes care of oob access, but the bytes outside the passed
> >>>>object might change concurrently i.e. strlen might introduce a
> >>>>data race: again this is a problem on the abstract c language
> >>>>level that may be solved e.g. by making all accesses to those
> >>>>bytes relaxed atomic, but user code is not under libc control.
> >>>>in practice the code works if HASZERO reads the word once so it
> >>>>does arithmetics with a consistent value (because the memory
> >>>>model of the underlying machine does not treat such race
> >>>>undefined and it does not propagate unspecified value bits nor
> >>>>has trap representations).
> >>>
> >>>Indeed, this seems like less of a practical concern.
> >>
> >>HASZERO reads the word twice so this should be a problem for
> >>unoptimized code on big-endian platforms.
> >
> >The number of abstract-machine reads is irrelevant unless we use
> >volatile here. A good compiler will always reduce it to one read, and
> >a bad compiler is always free to turn it into multiple reads.
>
> Ok, I'll reformulate: is compiling musl on a big-endian platform
> with optimizations turned off officially supported?
Yes, and I don't see why you expect this case to break due to data
race issues.
Rich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-08 22:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-05 16:46 Szabolcs Nagy
2016-01-05 17:50 ` Rich Felker
2016-01-05 23:39 ` Matthew Fernandez
2016-01-06 2:56 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-01-08 21:59 ` Alexander Cherepanov
2016-01-08 22:05 ` Rich Felker
2016-01-08 22:39 ` Alexander Cherepanov
2016-01-08 22:59 ` Rich Felker [this message]
2016-01-09 1:40 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-01-12 12:41 ` Alexander Cherepanov
2016-01-12 21:02 ` Alexander Cherepanov
2016-01-12 21:09 ` Alexander Cherepanov
2016-01-12 23:07 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-01-13 17:30 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-01-14 12:49 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-01-14 22:51 ` Rich Felker
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