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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Alba Pompeo <albapompeo@gmail.com>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com, Martin Maechler <maechler@stat.math.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: strptime() question
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 11:07:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160204160708.GP9349@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJDAfTDpBrooMDDJ=p1xf5c_j6Rn9nAuAnBCvdotzUcgBkQRzA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 04, 2016 at 01:27:40PM -0200, Alba Pompeo wrote:
> Hello musl.
> 
> I've built R on a musl system and "make check-all" fails because R
> does not get correct timezone information from the system.
> 
> Here's the error -
> http://pastebin.com/raw/32D3ngNZ
> 
> This would be correct,
> 
> > difftime(
> +     as.POSIXct(c("1970-01-01 00:00:00", "1970-01-01 12:00:00"), tz="EST5EDT"),
> +     as.POSIXct(c("1970-01-01 00:00:00", "1970-01-01 00:00:00"), tz="UTC"))
> Time differences in hours
> [1]  5 17
> 
> but my system gives   4 16  which would suggest that it thinks that
> there is only 4 hours time difference between  UTC  and  EST5EDT and
> that is just wrong.
> 
> The above can be translated to this (slightly more low-level) R code which
> is already somewhat close to the internal C code of R :
> 
>   > t0 <- strptime("1970-01-01 00:00:00", "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%OS", tz="UTC")
>   > as.numeric(t0)
>   [1] 0
> 
>   > t1 <- strptime("1970-01-01 00:00:00", "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%OS", tz="EST5EDT")
>   > as.numeric(t1)
>   [1] 18000
>   > 18000 / 3600
>   [1] 5
>   >
> 
> That's why its 5 hours.
> R's  strptime()  is close to the C library  strptime(), so think musl
> specialists should have it easy to do the above from C and find out
> why you get 4 hour instead of 5 hour difference.
> 
> I'm certain this isn't a problem with R and I think it's up to me to
> ensure that your system's  C library strptime() function returns the
> correct numbers for the above example, but I can't understand why it
> doesn't.
> 
> Can anyone help here?
> Thanks a lot.

I think we need to understand how R's strptime function implements its
tz argument, since this is not part of the POSIX strptime API. It's
possible that there's a bug in musl here, but it seems equally
possible that R is doing some dubious hacks with switching timezones.

I'm also wondering what you're expecting from the timezone name
EST5EDT, which is not generally usable; it's in POSIX TZ form rather
than zoneinfo, but it lacks any information about when the switch to
daylight time happens, and the defaults are not correct with respect
to modern policy.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-04 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-04 15:27 Alba Pompeo
2016-02-04 16:07 ` Rich Felker [this message]
     [not found]   ` <CAJDAfTCENy0dyAYP5612OSMnNBc5U-AGjEoOgVgF1VisjDs8=g@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <E98A2A10-27B5-48EF-988E-506F69E84BA6@r-project.org>
     [not found]       ` <CAJDAfTBwMx5eb5L+A2fbCpMB1ez-N+KdNViu69HkxAqfZs6RCg@mail.gmail.com>
2016-02-04 21:32         ` Fwd: [Rd] [musl] " Rich Felker
2016-02-06 12:35           ` Alba Pompeo
2016-02-06 22:55             ` Rich Felker

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