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From: Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: list of security features in musl
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:45:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160216174532.GA6216@openwall.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160211191119.GO9915@port70.net>

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 08:11:19PM +0100, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> - about 'security feature lists':
>   the fedora project lists 'sha256 based passwd hash' in glibc
>   as a security feature[0], that implementation is
>   - a denial of service attack vector (computation depends on
>     key length more than the admin controlled round count).
>   - arch dependent(!), one can craft a passwd entry such that
>     only 32bit machines can log in.

What do you mean here?  32-bit overflow/wraparound with very high
rounds= specification?

>   - unbounded alloca(!) use was fixed in 2012, long after
>     fedora added support for it (the reference implementation
>     in the spec still has the problem, among other issues[1]).
>   - uses arbitrary sized realloc for the global crypt state
>     even though 100 bytes would be enough (checks salt len
>     after reallocation).
>   - not standard conform c code: aligned attribute, alloca,
>     section attribute, undefined behaviour: (tmp - (char *) 0).
>   - meant to be used outside the libc, but secrets are cleared
>     with memset which can be optimized away.
>   (i think there are other issues in this sha256-crypt.c, but
>   the point is: implementation details matter so security check
>   lists should be taken with a grain of salt.)
> 
> [0]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security_Features#Glibc_Enhancements
> [1]: http://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2012/08/19/9

Another issue is that SHA-crypt leaks 8 bits via timing (total execution
time, not just cache-timing), for no good reason at all (not a tradeoff):

"18. repeast the following 16+A[0] times, where A[0] represents the first
    byte in digest A interpreted as an 8-bit unsigned value

      add the salt to digest DS"

For comparison, bcrypt is not cache-timing-safe, but that's a tradeoff.

Alexander


  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-16 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-11  7:56 Natanael Copa
2016-02-11  8:41 ` Rich Felker
2016-02-11 19:11   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-02-16 17:45     ` Solar Designer [this message]
2016-02-16 19:44       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-02-16 20:39         ` Rich Felker
2016-02-16 20:44           ` Szabolcs Nagy

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