From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: musl licensing
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 11:57:20 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160317155720.GD21636@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+bHwppbAyN8p5an3qqNEKuhNeAAvBfPnfSLzUsjf9GmEdrHDg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 08:49:39AM -0700, Hugues Bruant wrote:
> >
> > And don't get me wrong, I'm probably one of the biggest enemies of
> > the term "intellectual property" in the open source context; for
> > companies it's another matter, however, we have to play by the
> > rules of the system and be clear about what we mean.
> > For lawyers, calling something "public domain" doesn't mean much
> > to them. So endure the pain, license it under BSD-0, so Google's
> > lawyers and future peoples' lawyers are happy and we actually get
> > shit done.
> >
> Or go the SQLite way and charge a fee to get an explicit license for
> companies that are not comfortable with Public Domain
>
> http://sqlite.org/copyright.html
I've asked that we try to stay on-topic. The topic is not relicensing
or new licensing models (and certainly not unbalanced ones), only
fixing the issues that are making Google's lawyers go into paranoid
mode. :-)
> That's probably much stronger than the musl community would be comfortable
> with and also too late as it would require all past contributors to
> disclaim copyright, not just Rich but it's worth noting that public domain
> ideology is not incompatible with corporate use.
I don't think this is entirely accurate because there's plenty of
legacy PD code that made it into products with major corporate use. It
would take some research to produce a list but I'm quite confident
it's there. So the issue is not that "PD is incompatible with
corporate use" but (from what I can tell) that corporate lawyers are
weary (possibly rightfully so) of new attempts to put things in the
public domain without a clear license from the people who would be
copyright holders if the material is actually covered by copyright in
some or all jurisdictions.
I really don't want to be the "new DJB" who's holding out on actually
giving proper permissions statements/license as an act of protest
(against what?) and I'm hopeful that we can find a nice approach that
makes both parties happy.
Rich
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Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-15 21:59 Petr Hosek
2016-03-15 22:17 ` croco
2016-03-16 16:32 ` Alexander Cherepanov
2016-03-16 22:50 ` Petr Hosek
2016-03-16 22:55 ` Josiah Worcester
2016-03-16 23:46 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-17 2:06 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-17 3:04 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-17 8:17 ` u-uy74
2016-03-17 15:14 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-17 15:28 ` FRIGN
2016-03-17 15:49 ` Hugues Bruant
2016-03-17 15:57 ` Rich Felker [this message]
2016-03-17 16:01 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-17 23:32 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-18 4:21 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-18 4:47 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-18 18:07 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-18 18:16 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-18 19:12 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-18 19:47 ` George Kulakowski
2016-03-19 4:35 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-21 22:46 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-23 2:32 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-23 20:35 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-23 22:53 ` Rob Landley
2016-03-29 17:18 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-29 17:21 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-29 20:03 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-29 20:21 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-30 6:56 ` u-uy74
2016-03-30 14:11 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-30 14:43 ` u-uy74
2016-03-18 8:31 ` u-uy74
2016-03-17 1:26 ` Alexander Cherepanov
2016-03-17 2:20 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-15 22:20 ` Kurt H Maier
2016-03-15 22:20 ` Josiah Worcester
2016-03-15 22:41 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-15 22:49 ` Shiz
2016-03-16 4:54 ` Isaac Dunham
2016-03-16 8:00 ` u-uy74
2016-03-16 10:31 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-03-16 10:55 ` FRIGN
2016-03-16 12:34 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-03-16 12:46 ` Anthony J. Bentley
2016-03-16 13:49 ` u-uy74
2016-03-16 14:07 ` FRIGN
2016-03-16 14:01 ` FRIGN
2016-03-16 14:47 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-03-16 10:22 ` FRIGN
2016-03-16 20:13 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-16 20:19 ` FRIGN
2016-03-16 20:34 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-16 21:11 ` Jens Gustedt
2016-03-16 21:15 ` FRIGN
2016-03-16 21:35 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-16 21:50 ` FRIGN
2016-03-16 21:34 ` John Levine
2016-03-16 21:38 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-17 2:01 ` Ed Maste
2016-03-17 3:19 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-17 18:49 ` Ed Maste
2016-03-17 19:16 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-17 21:16 ` Wink Saville
2016-03-17 21:25 ` Petr Hosek
2016-03-17 22:56 ` Ruediger Meier
2016-03-17 23:07 ` Anthony J. Bentley
2016-03-17 23:19 ` Kurt H Maier
2016-03-17 23:31 ` Anthony J. Bentley
2016-03-17 23:46 ` Ruediger Meier
2016-03-18 3:30 ` Kurt H Maier
2016-03-18 3:41 ` Rich Felker
2016-03-18 3:55 ` Christopher Lane
2016-03-17 21:42 ` Ed Maste
2016-03-17 23:37 ` Luca Barbato
2016-03-18 8:01 ` u-uy74
2016-03-18 12:35 ` chromium with musl libc (was: [musl] musl licensing) Natanael Copa
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