From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/10848 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rich Felker Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: musl new-year's infrastructure resolutions Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 11:58:32 -0500 Message-ID: <20170102165832.GA1555@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <20161231233747.GV1555@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1483376330 25326 195.159.176.226 (2 Jan 2017 16:58:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:58:50 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-10861-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Mon Jan 02 17:58:46 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by blaine.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cO5wa-0005eU-7G for gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2017 17:58:44 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 15493 invoked by uid 550); 2 Jan 2017 16:58:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Original-Received: (qmail 15472 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2017 16:58:44 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Original-Sender: Rich Felker Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:10848 Archived-At: On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 06:39:37AM +0000, Khem Raj wrote: > Have you considered github My experiences with github have been a constant fight with the tools rather than having them make things go more smoothly. I don't like the weight of the web ui (it's very slow on all systems I access it on), I don't like that it doesn't work properly from mobile browsers (e.g. line-number links to source files don't work), I don't like how much you have to click through to get to the history of a given file or to get a link to a specific version, I don't like that it's impossible to review large diffs in the web ui (they just timeout loading), etc. I also don't like everything they do to make it hard to use FF pulls. Aside from that, using github for your issue tracker seems like a big commitment/lock-in, if you want issue history to be something stable and permanent, since I don't see any way to import/export the data. Whereas with conventional non-hosted-service issue trackers, you have control of the data and can, at least in principle with a lot of headache, extract and convert the data to a new tracker if you really want to. Rich > On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 3:38 PM Rich Felker wrote: > > > Here are some things I've really been wanting to get done for a while, > > > > that I/we should try to make happen in the coming months: > > > > > > > > Switching over wiki. The current wiki is essentially unmaintained. > > > > Kylie McClain (Somasis) has setup a clone of the content on a new > > > > git-based wiki that looks good. I still want to understand the > > > > intended workflow for getting changes published, but it's got to be > > > > better than the status quo where account creation doesn't even work. > > > > > > > > Adopting an issue tracker. This requires actually selecting one and > > > > setting up the infrastructure for it. The wiki could possibly be moved > > > > to the same infrastructure. (I want to keep webapp-ish stuff like > > > > wiki, issue tracker etc. off the server that hosts git and release > > > > downloads because anything interactive is a significant attack > > > > surface that puts integrity of code as risk.) > > > > > > > > Enabling git-over-https. This may require switching to a more-capable > > > > httpd or other infrastructure changes on the server. > > > > > > > > Website redesign and move to musl.libc.org. I don't have any concrete > > > > ideas for this yet, but I don't think the current website is at all in > > > > line with musl's maturity, current adoption/deployment, etc. > > > > > > > > Documentation. Existing manual should probably become a public git > > > > repo that contributors can submit patches/PRs for. Putting together > > > > lists of (1) what's outdated in the current one, and (2) what new > > > > content would be most valuable, might be a good place to start and one > > > > that could benefit from community involvement. > > > >