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From: u-uy74@aetey.se
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Question about setting argv[0] when manually using dynamic linker
Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 21:07:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170517190705.GM6320@example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170517162428.GH17319@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:24:28PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> > >>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 08:38:56PM -0400, John Regan wrote:
> > >>> > Hi there - I was wondering if it's possible to somehow set argv[0] when
> > >>> > calling the dynamic linker to load a program.

> > >>> Set argv[0] to whatever you need when you exec*() the dynamic loader,
> > >>> which is straightforward with a binary wrapper (not with a shell).
> > >>>
> > >>> A binary wrapper also adds less overhead then going through a shell.

> > >>> Rune

> a completely reasonable and recommended way for deploying dynamic
> linked apps in a self-contained way that doesn't depend on musl libc
> on the host. Unfortunately there's no way to set argv[0] like you want

We do deploy dynamic linked apps without any dependencies on the libraries
on the host. It works just fine with musl-as-it-is, including the
questionably designed applications like busybox and gcc who
analyze argv[0].

> at this time. Perhaps adding an option like --argv0=foo would be
> appropriate.

What would be the justification for adding the supporting code (to every
instance of the dynamic loader)?

It looks like --argv0=foo is meant to overcome a specific limitation in
bourne shell, in a specific context where the task can be solved easily
and generally better without involving the bourne shell in the first hand.

I would like to see an example of a situation where a wrapper in C (or
any language allowing setting of argv[0]) is less appropriate?

If one really has a reason to express the wrapper in sh, a one-liner in
C and an extra exec from the shell (much cheaper than starting the
shell itself was) is sufficient to make it work.

Rune



  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-17 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-17  0:38 John Regan
2017-05-17  9:01 ` u-uy74
2017-05-17 11:00   ` mzpqnxow
2017-05-17 16:07     ` mzpqnxow
2017-05-17 16:16       ` John Regan
2017-05-17 16:24         ` Rich Felker
2017-05-17 19:07           ` u-uy74 [this message]
2017-05-17 19:16             ` John Regan
2017-05-17 21:10               ` u-uy74
2017-05-17 21:15               ` mzpqnxow
2017-05-17 21:22                 ` John Regan
2017-07-02 17:36           ` u-uy74
2017-07-04 20:58             ` Rich Felker
2017-07-05  6:01               ` u-uy74
2017-07-09  9:23               ` u-uy74
2017-07-09 12:23                 ` Rich Felker
2017-07-09 14:04                   ` u-uy74

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