From: Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] s390x: Add single instruction math functions
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 11:03:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170612090331.GZ9350@port70.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGWvnykuvo=zF3rDADPJ0p92Pr3emO96qPYyqCPO7nknpF-RFA@mail.gmail.com>
* David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com> [2017-06-11 22:46:09 -0400]:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net> wrote:
> > * Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> [2017-06-10 22:20:44 -0400]:
> >> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 05:48:05PM -0400, David Edelsohn wrote:
> >> > When I worked with Bobby Bingham to create the s390x port of Musl, I
> >> > said that he could assume newer processors. Also, I don't believe
> >> > that LLVM supports the earlier processors. I believe that he assumed
> >> > some more recent instructions in other parts of the code.
> >>
> >> That seems doubtful; the amount of asm in musl is minimal and unlikely
> >> to benefit from later ISA levels; all the instructions I see look like
> >> very basic stuff that would always have been available.
> >>
> >> Now, what likely is accurate is your claim that nobody is using musl
> >> on lower ISA levels, so maybe it doesn't matter.
> >
> > well i am using s390x musl with lower isa level for compile tests
> >
> > and it seems gas rejects unrecognized opcodes so the new inline
> > asm does not compile for me.
> >
> > i think either musl configure should make sure the cc targets
> > the right isa level or the code should handle it with ifdefs
>
> I have asked the IBM toolchain team how to distinguish the
> architecture level at compile time, or at least distinguish support
> for the FP rounding instruction.
>
> Are you actually running s390x musl on a system earlier than z196
> architecture level? The public IBM LinuxONE Cloud is running on a z13
> system, many generations newer than even z196.
>
no, i only have a cross compiler, but since the toolchain build script
uses default settings i get z900 arch, if that's not good then gcc
config default should be fixed for musl.
> The following IBM table of supported and tested systems
>
> https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/linux/resources/testedplatforms.html
>
> shows that RHEL 7 and SLES 12 require at least z196, and Ubuntu 16.04
> requires at least zEC12.
>
> I can't find any official hardware requirements description for Alpine
> Linux. I tend to doubt that user would run it on older hardware,
> especially hardware no longer supported by other, modern Linux
> distributions.
>
> Building musl libc on older hardware is a nice accomplishment, but
> investing effort and complexity to maintain support probably isn't
> useful to any musl libc user and probably isn't a productive use of
> developer resources.
>
> I will continue to inquire if there is a simple technique to accomplish this.
>
> Thanks, David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-12 9:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-09 14:51 David Edelsohn
2017-06-10 15:36 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-06-10 17:25 ` David Edelsohn
2017-06-10 18:29 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-06-10 18:53 ` David Edelsohn
2017-06-10 19:48 ` Rich Felker
2017-06-10 20:22 ` David Edelsohn
2017-06-10 21:28 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-06-10 21:44 ` David Edelsohn
2017-06-10 21:48 ` David Edelsohn
2017-06-11 2:20 ` Rich Felker
2017-06-11 10:19 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-06-11 15:04 ` Rich Felker
2017-06-11 16:45 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-06-11 21:45 ` Rich Felker
2017-06-12 2:46 ` David Edelsohn
2017-06-12 4:36 ` Tuan M. Hoang
2017-06-12 9:03 ` Szabolcs Nagy [this message]
2017-06-12 13:28 ` David Edelsohn
2017-06-12 13:54 ` David Edelsohn
2017-06-12 20:28 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-06-12 21:02 ` David Edelsohn
2017-06-13 15:55 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-06-14 23:34 ` Rich Felker
2017-06-14 23:40 ` A. Wilcox
2017-06-14 23:44 ` Rich Felker
2017-06-15 12:18 ` David Edelsohn
2017-06-18 17:12 ` David Edelsohn
2017-06-21 0:49 ` Rich Felker
2017-06-21 1:07 ` David Edelsohn
2017-06-21 1:20 ` Rich Felker
2017-06-21 3:34 ` David Edelsohn
2017-06-23 19:31 ` Rich Felker
2017-06-10 21:37 ` Rich Felker
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