From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/11755 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rich Felker Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: [PATCH] use UTC instead of GMT Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 10:54:48 -0400 Message-ID: <20170728145448.GZ1627@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <20170722091903.19432-1-ncopa@alpinelinux.org> <20170722142625.GU1627@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20170728143510.692c5020@ncopa-desktop.copa.dup.pw> <20170728130017.GX1627@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <597B44AE.6050004@adelielinux.org> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501253703 25551 195.159.176.226 (28 Jul 2017 14:55:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 14:55:03 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-11768-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Fri Jul 28 16:55:00 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by blaine.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1db6fJ-0006Ns-3e for gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2017 16:54:57 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 5159 invoked by uid 550); 28 Jul 2017 14:55:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Original-Received: (qmail 5137 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2017 14:55:01 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <597B44AE.6050004@adelielinux.org> Original-Sender: Rich Felker Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:11755 Archived-At: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 09:05:34AM -0500, A. Wilcox wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 28/07/17 08:00, Rich Felker wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 02:35:10PM +0200, Natanael Copa wrote: > >> I checked what FreeBSD, OpenBSD and GNU/Linux does when timezone > >> is unset. Seems that they all use "UTC" so I think that makes > >> most sense. > > > > That may well end up being the reasonable position. Let's see what > > others have to say on the matter (hopefully without it getting too > > much into bikeshedding). > > > +100 > > That is the sane and reasonable thing to do and the fact musl doesn't > do that automatically has broken two kernel builds for me (minor > annoyance, but still a real issue). The kernels boot but uname -a > says "Sat Sep 13 23:57:23 Time zone not s" which cuts off the year. > May seem silly but having to use Wolfram Alpha to calculate what year > the 13th of September fell on a Saturday is a bit annoying when you're > dealing with servers with long uptimes... > > (The answer is 2014 and I pulled that from an old log. Don't worry, > I'm not actually running anything that old on anything.) Do you know how the kernel ended up with "Time zone not s[et?]" there? This seems like a separate bug that should be addressed somewhere. Rich