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From: Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Wrong info in libc comparison
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 21:34:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170916193434.x7oxm3fusmt46srz@voyager> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170916171154.GC15263@port70.net>

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 07:11:54PM +0200, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> glibc, uclibc, dietlibc, newlib, netbsd, openbsd, freebsd
> qsort are all O(n^2) worst-case, musl qsort is O(n log(n)).
> 

Yes, sorry, I mixed that up. Quicksort is loglinear only in the average
case. Same for Shell sort being O(sqrt(n^3)).

> i think this is not a sidetrack, but relevant detail
> for a libc comparision page.
> (the openbsd proof of concept stack clash exploit
> relied on the unbounded stack use in qsort, that
> would not work against musl, but all the other libcs
> are affected.)

No, stack usage is not necessarily linear even with quicksort. dietlibc
and avr-libc have linear stack usage (with avr-libc always recursing
into the first subproblem, and dietlibc always recursing into both
subproblems), that's right, but glibc uses a constant amount of stack
(automatic allocation of an array to hold the maximum possible number of
subproblems, which is equal to the number of bits in a machine word),
and newlib uses recursion into the smaller subproblem, thus using a
logarithmic amount of stack (functionally constant, since you can give
an upper limit).

And uclibc also uses a constant amount of stack. Shell sort doesn't need
recursion.

Ciao,
Markus


  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-16 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-13 13:51 Markus Wichmann
2017-09-13 18:10 ` Rich Felker
2017-09-13 18:51   ` Markus Wichmann
2017-09-13 19:25     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-09-13 19:53       ` Rich Felker
2017-09-15 19:18         ` Markus Wichmann
2017-09-16  9:37           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-09-16 14:01             ` Markus Wichmann
2017-09-16 17:11               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-09-16 19:34                 ` Markus Wichmann [this message]
2017-09-16 16:18             ` Rich Felker
2017-09-16 18:38               ` Markus Wichmann

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