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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Replacing a_crash() ?
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 23:23:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180917032317.GF17995@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)

Now that we have an abort() that reliably terminates with uncatchable
SIGABRT, I've been thinking about replacing the a_crash() calls in
musl (which are usually an instruction generating SIGILL or SIGSEGV)
with calls to the uncatchable tail of abort(), which I would factor
off as a __forced_abort() function.

In case it's not clear, the reason for not just calling abort() is
that too many programs catch it, and catching it is even encouraged.
Catchability is a problem with the current approach too, since
a_crash() is used in places where process state is known to be
dangerously corrupt and likely under attacker control; eliminating it
is one of the potential goals of switching to __forced_abort().

Are there any objections to making such a change? So far I've gotten
mostly positive feedback -- SIGABRT is more telling of what's happened
than SIGSEGV/SIGILL. It would also get rid of the ugly misplacement of
a_crash() (no longer needed) in "atomic.h" and the inclusion of
"atomic.h" in some files where it makes no sense without knowing it's
where a_crash() is defined.

For i386, some nontrivial work would be needed to make abort's tail
perform syscalls with int $128 rather than the vdso, which is unsafe
since the pointer to it may have been subverted. On other archs,
inline syscalls are fully inline. I'd probably add a
NEED_FAILSAFE_SYSCALL macro to define before including "syscall.h" and
have arch/i386/syscall_arch.h adjust the asm string based on it; this
is more maintainable than writing an asm version of the function.

Rich


             reply	other threads:[~2018-09-17  3:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-17  3:23 Rich Felker [this message]
2018-09-17  3:50 ` A. Wilcox
2018-09-17  9:24   ` u-uy74
2018-09-17 11:13 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-09-17 13:24   ` Rich Felker
2018-09-17 15:24 ` Markus Wichmann
2018-09-17 15:36   ` Rich Felker

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