From: u-uy74@aetey.se
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: (OT?) Re: [musl] Symbol versioning approximation trips on compat symbols
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:08:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190128130813.GC30123@example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bm41xpce.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com>
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 07:34:25AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * u-uy:
>
> > On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 11:04:24PM -0500, Rich Felker wrote:
> >> For what it's worth, compat symbols would have let us remove symbols
> >> that shouldn't have been put in musl, such as lchmod (which confuses
> >> broken apps which wrongly expect that, if it exists, it should work)
> >
> > For what my integrator perspective is worth, exposing brokenness instead
> > of catering for it is a Good Thing.
> So far, no one has presented a compelling way how to test for symbol
> versioning support.
My comment apparently fell out of context. Sorry for that.
It was about applications who make undue assumptions (and as a consequence
use misdirected tests). Exposing the failures of those assumptions is
vital to be able to make it better.
If there is a feature which is hard or impossible to test for, like
symbol versioning, it means that the applications may _have_ to rely on
an explicit build flag telling whether to use it.
IOW it is for the most part not a technical problem but rather a problem
of awareness among application developers.
Rune
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-28 13:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-21 17:57 Florian Weimer
2019-01-24 1:43 ` Rich Felker
2019-01-24 9:28 ` u-uy74
2019-01-24 10:11 ` Florian Weimer
2019-01-24 11:09 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-01-24 11:18 ` Florian Weimer
2019-01-27 4:04 ` Rich Felker
2019-01-27 9:36 ` u-uy74
2019-01-28 6:34 ` Florian Weimer
2019-01-28 9:17 ` Timo Teras
2019-01-28 11:33 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-01-28 12:40 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-01-28 13:08 ` u-uy74 [this message]
2019-01-28 15:22 ` (OT?) Re: [musl] " Markus Wichmann
2019-01-28 15:34 ` Rich Felker
2019-01-28 15:29 ` Rich Felker
2019-01-29 17:13 ` u-uy74
2019-01-30 14:57 ` Rich Felker
2019-01-28 21:57 ` A. Wilcox
2019-01-28 22:52 ` Matias Fonzo
2019-01-28 23:12 ` Zach van Rijn
2019-01-28 23:41 ` A. Wilcox
2019-01-28 23:47 ` Rich Felker
2019-01-29 3:22 ` A. Wilcox
2019-01-29 19:40 ` Matias Fonzo
2019-01-29 19:31 ` Matias Fonzo
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