From: u-uy74@aetey.se
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: (OT?) Re: [musl] Symbol versioning approximation trips on compat symbols
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 18:13:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190129171305.GA22427@example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190128152912.GB23599@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 10:29:12AM -0500, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 02:08:13PM +0100, u-uy74@aetey.se wrote:
> > If there is a feature which is hard or impossible to test for, like
> > symbol versioning, it means that the applications may _have_ to rely on
> > an explicit build flag telling whether to use it.
> It wouldn't be hard to test for if toolchains had been consistent with
> musl capabilities all along. They have not been. So we have a
> situation where the valid build-time tests indicate support, but
> runtime silently lacks it. I don't think this is a good situation to
What is the value (the "validity"?) of a build-time test if it
does not help to distinguish how to build a usable binary?
This seems to be testing for A when we want to know B.
> Fortunately, it mostly doesn't matter since the main intended usage
> for versioning is to link to the current/default version symbols,
> assuming your apps are all up-to-date with respect to your libs (and
> libs wrt each other). But I still think honoring version bindings in
> ldso is the right course of action.
I assume you'll find a good balance between the cost/complexity and
usefulness.
(Musl is by far the best libc I ever worked with on Linux, among others
omitting a number of regrettably popular misfeatures. Kudos.)
Rune
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-29 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-21 17:57 Florian Weimer
2019-01-24 1:43 ` Rich Felker
2019-01-24 9:28 ` u-uy74
2019-01-24 10:11 ` Florian Weimer
2019-01-24 11:09 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-01-24 11:18 ` Florian Weimer
2019-01-27 4:04 ` Rich Felker
2019-01-27 9:36 ` u-uy74
2019-01-28 6:34 ` Florian Weimer
2019-01-28 9:17 ` Timo Teras
2019-01-28 11:33 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-01-28 12:40 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-01-28 13:08 ` (OT?) Re: [musl] " u-uy74
2019-01-28 15:22 ` Markus Wichmann
2019-01-28 15:34 ` Rich Felker
2019-01-28 15:29 ` Rich Felker
2019-01-29 17:13 ` u-uy74 [this message]
2019-01-30 14:57 ` Rich Felker
2019-01-28 21:57 ` A. Wilcox
2019-01-28 22:52 ` Matias Fonzo
2019-01-28 23:12 ` Zach van Rijn
2019-01-28 23:41 ` A. Wilcox
2019-01-28 23:47 ` Rich Felker
2019-01-29 3:22 ` A. Wilcox
2019-01-29 19:40 ` Matias Fonzo
2019-01-29 19:31 ` Matias Fonzo
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