mailing list of musl libc
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Revisiting 64-bit time_t
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 12:07:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190701160744.GT1506@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a0s0aAMF_Z0p8jBQbkpf=juGifdsG2ypkefzLZ4i0FcdA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 04:41:51PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> c) Keep backwards compatibility in libraries, but convert the
>    distro one package at a time.
>    Advantage: If done right, users can upgrade over rolling
>    releases without ABIs breaking
>    Disadvantage: very hard to get right, and much more work
>    than the other two.

I'm confused how "convert the distro one package at a time" comes up.
The only packages potentially affected are ones that provide or
consume a non-libc API with time_t or derived types as inputs or
outputs. Such providers and consumers would have to be updated in sync
with each other, but otherwise there should be no constraints about
updating packages. I think this could be implemented with distros'
standard "depends on" and "conflicts with" mechanics.

> unrelated reasons. Debian will probably want c), but might also
> be convinced to replace the existing 32-bit ports with musl based
> ones to avoid the effort and reduce RAM usage at the same
> time ;-)

Replacing libc is like the polar opposite of option (c) here... :-)

Rich


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-01 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-28 15:06 Rich Felker
2019-06-29  8:36 ` A. Wilcox
2019-06-29 16:21   ` Rich Felker
2019-07-01 14:41     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-01 14:50       ` A. Wilcox
2019-07-01 15:41         ` Rich Felker
2019-07-01 15:55           ` A. Wilcox
2019-07-01 15:57       ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-01 16:07       ` Rich Felker [this message]
2019-07-02  9:35         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-02 21:09           ` Rich Felker
2019-06-29 16:35 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-01 14:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-01 15:31   ` Rich Felker
2019-07-01 21:12     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-01 22:07       ` Rich Felker
2019-07-02  8:28         ` Arnd Bergmann

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20190701160744.GT1506@brightrain.aerifal.cx \
    --to=dalias@libc.org \
    --cc=musl@lists.openwall.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.vuxu.org/mirror/musl/

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).