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From: Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@inria.fr>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: printf doesn't respect locale
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:07:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190911120722.6ed0b3fb@inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190911100159.GK22009@port70.net>

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Hello Szabolcs,

On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:01:59 +0200 Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net> wrote:

> > We would be *extremely* disappointed if LC_NUMERIC would never be
> > supported in upstream musl.  We would have to maintain a patch to
> > add LC_NUMERIC support when the rest of musl's locale support is
> > developed.  
> 
> i consider this a posix/iso c bug.

I agree

> there is a need for printf with fixed C.UTF-8 locale in
> library code that implements a file format, language or
> protocol that cannot be locale dependent.
> 
> in iso c there is no way to get this.
> 
> in posix 2008 you have to jump through very bizarre hoops
> to get it (in a slow and resource wasting way).
> 
> so the world is full of printf users that just expect
> fixed C.UTF-8 locale and hope nobody calls setlocale.
> 
> telling ppl that their code is wrong does not help unless
> you provide an alternative, but introducing new api for
> this would not be portable.

I think that WG14 would be happy to hear any suggestions how we could
get out of this trap, a proposal for C2x would even be better.


Thanks
Jens

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-11 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-09 16:31 Daniel Schoepe
2019-09-09 16:39 ` Daniel Schoepe
2019-09-09 16:51 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-09-09 17:55   ` Rich Felker
2019-09-09 17:54 ` Rich Felker
2019-09-10 16:00   ` Daniel Schoepe
2019-09-10 16:31     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-09-10 16:44       ` Tim Tassonis
2019-09-10 17:30         ` Rich Felker
2019-09-10 17:10       ` Daniel Schoepe
2019-09-10 17:33         ` Rich Felker
2019-09-10 18:43         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-09-10 21:55           ` A. Wilcox
2019-09-11 10:01             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-09-11 10:07               ` Jens Gustedt [this message]
2019-09-11 11:44                 ` Rich Felker
2019-09-11 12:53                   ` Jens Gustedt
2019-09-11 13:47                     ` Rich Felker
2019-09-11 15:15                       ` Jens Gustedt
2019-09-11 15:38                         ` Rich Felker
2019-09-11 18:08                           ` Jens Gustedt

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