From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/14866 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rich Felker Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: time64 switchover -- distro plans? Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 00:08:20 -0400 Message-ID: <20191027040820.GV16318@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="1812"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-14882-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Sun Oct 27 05:08:38 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by blaine.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iOZr3-0000Md-R4 for gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2019 05:08:37 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 5389 invoked by uid 550); 27 Oct 2019 04:08:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Original-Received: (qmail 5357 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2019 04:08:33 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline Original-Sender: Rich Felker Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:14866 Archived-At: This thread is a call for feedback from distros (or other similarly-situated systems integrators) using musl with 32-bit archs. Everything is moving smoothly on my side for upcoming time64 switchover which will be included in the next release, 1.2.0. But with this involving ABI issues between packages and changes that some software may not be ready for, it will likely be at least somewhat disruptive to distros/users. In particular: * Are there resources I could/should make available that will help things go smoothly? * Are you available for testing building and running packages against time64 musl prior to release? >From my side, I'm planning to write up release notes/announcement far more detailed than usual, with instructions on switchover, what ABI compatibility/stability does & doesn't mean, possible pitfalls, tips for catching code that may have time64-related bugs, etc., and just basic FAQ items like whether you need a 5.1+ kernel (no) or kernel headers (no). I'll also be building and testing some software on i386 and sh at least; I already started with busybox, which just got the main time64-readiness issue I was aware of fixed. I think I'll push the last of the time64 patches within the next week, possibly sooner, meaning "distros start testing" is a thing that could begin really soon if anyone's up for it. Rich