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From: Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] Triggering Overflow (or Underflow) without triggering Inexact on i386
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 23:32:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200120223204.GP23985@port70.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.02.2001210803250.18026@key0.esi.com.au>

* Damian McGuckin <damianm@esi.com.au> [2020-01-21 08:11:50 +1100]:
> I am trying to write arithmetic expressions using only x87 instructions to
> trigger an exception.  The ASM instruction to raise the flag in the status
> register has way too much overhead.
> 
> My normal technique of doing either of these would also trigger Inexact.
> 
> e.g.
> 	volatile long double t;
> 
> 	Overflow:  t = largest normal long double, t *= t;
> 	Underflow:  t = smallest normal long double, t *= t;
> 
> Can it be triggered WITHOUT also triggering INEXACT?

ieee operations raise inexact and underflow/overflow together.

so you cannot implement feraiseexcept by only doing arithmetic
ops (which can do individual underflow/overflow), but that's a
rare function so it can be slow fldenv/fwait etc.

note that there is __math_uflow/__math_oflow now for internal
math code (and they don't use the smallest/largest normal,
instead they use small/large numbers with simple representation
since sometimes those can be constructed as immediates on some
targets, but this is a micro-optimization).

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-20 22:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-16  4:30 [musl] Considering x86-64 fenv.s to C Damian McGuckin
2020-01-16 15:11 ` Markus Wichmann
2020-01-16 16:14 ` Rich Felker
2020-01-16 18:56   ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-16 19:33     ` Rich Felker
2020-01-16 21:31       ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-17  3:36       ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-17  3:48         ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-17  3:53         ` David Edelsohn
2020-01-17 14:13           ` Rich Felker
2020-01-17 14:19             ` David Edelsohn
2020-01-17 14:53         ` Rich Felker
2020-01-18  4:45           ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-18  5:29             ` Rich Felker
2020-01-19  8:50               ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-19  9:07           ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-19 10:42             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-01-19 12:25               ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-20  5:32           ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-20 17:38             ` Rich Felker
2020-01-20 21:11               ` [musl] Triggering Overflow (or Underflow) without triggering Inexact on i386 Damian McGuckin
2020-01-20 22:32                 ` Szabolcs Nagy [this message]
2020-01-21  3:53           ` [musl] Considering x86-64 fenv.s to C Damian McGuckin
2020-01-21  4:22             ` Rich Felker
2020-01-21  4:46               ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-21  7:26                 ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-17 16:41         ` Markus Wichmann
2020-01-18  1:15           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-01-18  5:03             ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-18  5:37               ` Rich Felker
2020-01-18  9:40                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-01-24  0:42                   ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-24  1:11                     ` Rich Felker
2020-01-24  4:13                       ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-24  4:55                         ` Rich Felker
2020-01-24  6:08                           ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-24 13:44                             ` Rich Felker
2020-01-24 14:45                               ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-24 23:59                               ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-25  0:11                                 ` Rich Felker
2020-01-26  3:28                                   ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-26  3:28                                   ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-26  3:30                                   ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-26  3:32                                   ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-26  5:25                                   ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-27  3:32                                   ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-27  5:39                                   ` Damian McGuckin
2020-02-02  0:47                                   ` Damian McGuckin
2020-02-03  0:54                                   ` Damian McGuckin
2020-02-03  2:09                                     ` Rich Felker
2020-02-03  2:12                                       ` Damian McGuckin
2020-02-22 20:17                                         ` Rich Felker
2020-02-22 20:53                                           ` Damian McGuckin
2020-02-23  5:41                                           ` Damian McGuckin
2020-02-23  6:25                                             ` Rich Felker
2020-02-23  8:35                                               ` Damian McGuckin
2020-02-07 21:25                                   ` Damian McGuckin
2020-02-07 21:38                                     ` Rich Felker
2020-02-07 23:53                                       ` Damian McGuckin
2020-02-09  5:04                                       ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-24  7:10                           ` Damian McGuckin
2020-01-18  5:04             ` Markus Wichmann

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