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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
Cc: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, musl@lists.openwall.com,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, libc-dev@lists.llvm.org
Subject: Re: [musl] Powerpc Linux 'scv' system call ABI proposal take 2
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 11:37:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200416153756.GU11469@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c2612908-67f7-cceb-d121-700dea096016@linaro.org>

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:16:04AM -0300, Adhemerval Zanella wrote:
> > My preference would be that it work just like the i386 AT_SYSINFO
> > where you just replace "int $128" with "call *%%gs:16" and the kernel
> > provides a stub in the vdso that performs either scv or the old
> > mechanism with the same calling convention. Then if the kernel doesn't
> > provide it (because the kernel is too old) libc would have to provide
> > its own stub that uses the legacy method and matches the calling
> > convention of the one the kernel is expected to provide.
> 
> What about pthread cancellation and the requirement of checking the
> cancellable syscall anchors in asynchronous cancellation? My plan is
> still to use musl strategy on glibc (BZ#12683) and for i686 it 
> requires to always use old int$128 for program that uses cancellation
> (static case) or just threads (dynamic mode, which should be more
> common on glibc).
> 
> Using the i686 strategy of a vDSO bridge symbol would require to always
> fallback to 'sc' to still use the same cancellation strategy (and
> thus defeating this optimization in such cases).

Yes, I assumed it would be the same, ignoring the new syscall
mechanism for cancellable syscalls. While there are some exceptions,
cancellable syscalls are generally not hot paths but things that are
expected to block and to have significant amounts of work to do in
kernelspace, so saving a few tens of cycles is rather pointless.

It's possible to do a branch/multiple versions of the syscall asm for
cancellation but would require extending the cancellation handler to
support checking against multiple independent address ranges or using
some alternate markup of them.

Rich

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-16 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-15 21:45 Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-15 22:55 ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16  0:16   ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-16  0:48     ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16  2:24       ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-16  2:35         ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16  2:53           ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-16  3:03             ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16  3:41               ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-16 20:18             ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-16  9:58     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-04-20  0:27       ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-20  1:29         ` Rich Felker
2020-04-20  2:08           ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-20 21:17             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-04-21  9:57               ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-16 15:21     ` Jeffrey Walton
2020-04-16 15:40       ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16  4:48   ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-16 15:35     ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16 16:42       ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-16 16:52         ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16 18:12           ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-16 23:02             ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-17  0:34               ` Rich Felker
2020-04-17  1:48                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-17  8:34                   ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-16 14:16   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-16 15:37     ` Rich Felker [this message]
2020-04-16 17:50       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-16 17:59         ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16 18:18           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-16 18:31             ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16 18:44               ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16 18:52               ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-20  0:46                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-20  1:10               ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-20  1:34                 ` Rich Felker
2020-04-20  2:32                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-20  4:09                     ` Rich Felker
2020-04-20  4:31                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-20 17:27                         ` Rich Felker
2020-04-22  6:18                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-22  6:29                             ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-23  2:36                             ` Rich Felker
2020-04-23 12:13                               ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-23 16:18                                 ` Rich Felker
2020-04-23 16:35                                   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-23 16:43                                     ` Rich Felker
2020-04-23 17:15                                       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-23 17:42                                         ` Rich Felker
2020-04-25  3:40                                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-25  4:52                                             ` Rich Felker
2020-04-25  3:30                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-21 12:28                 ` David Laight
2020-04-21 14:39                   ` Rich Felker
2020-04-21 15:00                     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-21 15:31                       ` David Laight
2020-04-22  6:54                       ` [musl] " Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-22  7:15                         ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-22  7:31                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-22  8:11                             ` Florian Weimer

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