From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15420 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2020 17:46:30 -0000 Received: from mother.openwall.net (195.42.179.200) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Jun 2020 17:46:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 3789 invoked by uid 550); 4 Jun 2020 17:46:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com Received: (qmail 3770 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2020 17:46:25 -0000 Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 13:46:13 -0400 From: Rich Felker To: Segher Boessenkool Cc: Daniel Kolesa , Michal =?utf-8?B?U3VjaMOhbmVr?= , Joseph Myers , libc-alpha@sourceware.org, eery@paperfox.es, musl@lists.openwall.com, Will Springer , Palmer Dabbelt via binutils , via libc-dev , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org Message-ID: <20200604174613.GP1079@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <20200602142337.GS25173@kitsune.suse.cz> <3aeb6dfe-ae23-42f9-ac23-16be6b54a850@www.fastmail.com> <20200604171232.GG31009@gate.crashing.org> <20200604171844.GO1079@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20200604173312.GI31009@gate.crashing.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200604173312.GI31009@gate.crashing.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [musl] Re: ppc64le and 32-bit LE userland compatibility On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 12:33:12PM -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 01:18:44PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 12:12:32PM -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 05:13:25PM +0200, Daniel Kolesa wrote: > > > > well, ppc64le already cannot be run on those, as far as I know (I > > > > don't think it's possible to build ppc64le userland without VSX in > > > > any configuration) > > > > > > VSX is required by the ELFv2 ABI: > > > > > > """ > > > Specifically, to use this ABI and ABI-compliant programs, OpenPOWER- > > > compliant processors must implement the following categories: > > > > This is not actually ABI but IBM policy laundered into an ABI > > document, which musl does not honor. > > It is the ABI. If you think it should be different, make your own ABI, > don't pretend the existing ABI is different than what it is. Thank you. Our ABI is as specified in the ELFv2 document, but with ld as ld64, and minus gratuitous requirements on ISA level that are not part of implementing linkage. Rich