From: Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] Why the musl libc did not support neon simd acceleartor officially on mem* operations?
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:48:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210828094847.GB3090@voyager> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e37b6c4.19be.17b8bc750df.Coremail.13824125580@163.com>
On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 04:01:40PM +0800, tugouxp wrote:
> HI guys:
> I found that the current implmention of musl arm port memcpy.S and
> other mem*.S operations did not use arm neon instructions, this
> seems differenct with other counterparts like newlibc, glibc and
> bonic libc, which all impl. the neon version of mem* operations.
I am not an expert on this or indeed anything, but it seems like there
are two plausible explanations for this:
1.) Neon support is not architectural, and not subarchitectural. It
appears Neon comes with a new register set the kernel has to switch out
on context switch, so Neon support is predicated on kernel support. That
makes it a runtime thing. Leaving aside where the kernel declares such
support, having a runtime switch in memcpy() is going to be a slowdown
of some kind for all existing users. I don't know how much of a
slowdown, but a slowdown nonetheless.
My guess is the other libcs ignore the issue of the user compiling a
userspace that won't run on the target platform and allow the user to
shoot themselves in the foot.
Adverting to the competition is a poor choice for this mailing list, by
the way, because part of musl's success comes from looking at them and
saying: No, we are not going to do that.
2.) The code does not exist because it has not been written yet. You are
welcome to submit a patch. I mean, you found the mailing list easily
enough.
> so could you tell me why? is there and concern about on this in musl?
> if i want to imple my self imple. how to do this, is there any matual
> pathches to use?
None that I am aware of, so they have not been submitted to this list
for sure.
Ciao,
Markus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-28 9:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-28 8:01 tugouxp
2021-08-28 9:48 ` Markus Wichmann [this message]
2021-08-28 14:29 ` [musl] " tugouxp
2021-08-28 19:53 ` Rich Felker
2021-08-28 20:27 ` Jeffrey Walton
2021-08-28 20:34 ` Rich Felker
2021-09-04 13:56 ` Ismael Luceno
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