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From: Joakim Sindholt <opensource@zhasha.com>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] The heap memory performance (malloc/free/realloc) is significantly degraded in musl 1.2 (compared to 1.1)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 22:17:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220919221702.2c8da85cc0638c2fdf43ac6a@zhasha.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2022092003453382350548@gmail.com>

On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 03:45:35 +0800, baiyang <baiyang@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The only correct value malloc_usable_size can return is the value you passed to the allocator. 
> 
> I don't think so, see:
> 
> Linux man page: https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/malloc_usable_size.3.html - "The value returned by malloc_usable_size() may be **greater than** the requested size of the allocation".
> 
> Mac OS X man page: https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/System/Conceptual/ManPages_iPhoneOS/man3/malloc_size.3.html - "The memory block size is always at least as large as the allocation it backs, **and may be larger**."
> 
> FreeBSD man page: https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=malloc_usable_size&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.1-RELEASE&format=html - "The return value **may be larger** than the size that was requested during allocation".
> 
> These official man pages clearly state that the return value of malloc_usable_size is the size of the memory block allocated internally, not the size submitted by the user. 
> 
> Instead, we didn't find any documentation saying that the return value of malloc_usable_size must be the size submitted by the user to be correct. Please correct me if you have the relevant documentation.

It's not that malloc_usable_size must return the size originally
submitted by the user but that if it doesn't and you take that as an
invitation to exceed the original size allocated you will hit UB.

Simple case:
https://gcc.godbolt.org/z/5E65rr95W
Real world example:
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/22801

And the reason why is pretty simple:
http://port70.net/~nsz/c/c11/n1570.html#7.22.3.4p2
> The malloc function allocates space for an object whose size is
> specified by size and whose value is indeterminate.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-19 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-19  7:53 baiyang
2022-09-19 11:08 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-09-19 12:36   ` Florian Weimer
2022-09-19 13:46     ` Rich Felker
2022-09-19 13:53       ` James Y Knight
2022-09-19 17:40         ` baiyang
2022-09-19 18:14           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-09-19 18:40             ` baiyang
2022-09-19 19:07             ` Gabriel Ravier
2022-09-19 19:21               ` Rich Felker
2022-09-19 21:02                 ` Gabriel Ravier
2022-09-19 21:47                   ` Rich Felker
2022-09-19 22:31                     ` Gabriel Ravier
2022-09-19 22:46                       ` baiyang
2022-09-19 20:46             ` Nat!
2022-09-20  8:51               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-09-20  0:13           ` James Y Knight
2022-09-20  0:25             ` baiyang
2022-09-20  0:38               ` Rich Felker
2022-09-20  0:47                 ` baiyang
2022-09-20  1:00                   ` Rich Felker
2022-09-20  1:18                     ` baiyang
2022-09-20  2:15                       ` Rich Felker
2022-09-20  2:35                         ` baiyang
2022-09-20  3:28                           ` Rich Felker
2022-09-20  3:53                             ` baiyang
2022-09-20  5:41                               ` Rich Felker
2022-09-20  5:56                                 ` baiyang
2022-09-20 12:16                                   ` Rich Felker
2022-09-20 17:21                                     ` baiyang
2022-09-20  8:33       ` Florian Weimer
2022-09-20 13:54         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-09-20 16:59           ` James Y Knight
2022-09-20 17:34             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-09-20 19:53               ` James Y Knight
2022-09-24  8:55               ` Fangrui Song
2022-09-20 17:39             ` baiyang
2022-09-20 18:12               ` Quentin Rameau
2022-09-20 18:19                 ` Rich Felker
2022-09-20 18:26                   ` Alexander Monakov
2022-09-20 18:35                     ` baiyang
2022-09-20 20:33                       ` Gabriel Ravier
2022-09-20 20:45                         ` baiyang
2022-09-21  8:42                           ` NRK
2022-09-20 18:37                     ` Quentin Rameau
2022-09-21 10:15                   ` [musl] " 王志强
2022-09-21 16:11                     ` [musl] " 王志强
2022-09-21 17:15                     ` [musl] " Rich Felker
2022-09-21 17:58                       ` Rich Felker
2022-09-22  3:34                         ` [musl] " 王志强
2022-09-22  9:10                           ` [musl] " 王志强
2022-09-22  9:39                             ` [musl] " 王志强
2022-09-20 17:28           ` baiyang
2022-09-20 17:44             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-10-10 14:13           ` Florian Weimer
2022-09-19 13:43 ` Rich Felker
2022-09-19 17:32   ` baiyang
2022-09-19 18:15     ` Rich Felker
2022-09-19 18:44       ` baiyang
2022-09-19 19:18         ` Rich Felker
2022-09-19 19:45           ` baiyang
2022-09-19 20:07             ` Rich Felker
2022-09-19 20:17               ` baiyang
2022-09-19 20:28                 ` Rich Felker
2022-09-19 20:38                   ` baiyang
2022-09-19 22:02                 ` Quentin Rameau
2022-09-19 20:17             ` Joakim Sindholt [this message]
2022-09-19 20:33               ` baiyang

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