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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: "Jₑₙₛ Gustedt" <jens.gustedt@inria.fr>
Cc: enh <enh@google.com>, musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] C23 implications for C libraries
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 23:33:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220926033322.GC9709@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220924093106.41e53819@inria.fr>

On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 09:31:06AM +0200, Jₑₙₛ Gustedt wrote:
> enh,
> 
> on Fri, 23 Sep 2022 16:52:53 -0700 you (enh <enh@google.com>) wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 8:40 AM Jₑₙₛ Gustedt <jens.gustedt@inria.fr>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > enh,
> > >
> > > on Fri, 23 Sep 2022 08:28:52 -0700 you (enh <enh@google.com>) wrote:
> > >  
> > > > since you asked for comments, it would have been even better to
> > > > have direct links to the relevant documents (such as
> > > > https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/WG14/www/docs/n2829.htm for the
> > > > assert() changes),  
> > >
> > > yes, the idea is to add such a link when I manage to discuss the
> > > particular feature more in detail
> > >  
> > 
> > that...
> 
> wow, that's pushy
> 
> > > my hope is also still that we may have a diff-version of the C
> > > standard at some point in the nearer future, but it seems that the
> > > editors have problems with the tooling for that
> > >  
> > 
> > ...and that sound even better, yes --- but i always worry about "the
> > perfect is the enemy of the good". a 20% solution today is worth more
> > to me than a 100% solution a year from now :-)
> 
> Much as musl, the C standard is a volunteer project. Instead of
> reclaiming things you should ask yourself how can you or your company
> help.
> 
> As all volunteer work, this is best effort. WG14 would have a much
> better stand if more of the industry would inject real work force into
> the committee. Currently there seem only be two of the bigger players
> that have people there that substantially work on the C standard
> during their office hours. The others are mostly academics like myself
> and people working in their free time.

All that ^^^

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-26  3:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-23 14:25 Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2022-09-23 14:58 ` Rich Felker
2022-09-23 15:11   ` Alexander Monakov
2022-09-23 15:35   ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2022-09-23 15:28 ` enh
2022-09-23 15:40   ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2022-09-23 23:52     ` enh
2022-09-24  7:31       ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2022-09-26  3:18         ` Damian McGuckin
2022-09-26  3:33         ` Rich Felker [this message]
2022-09-26 10:49         ` Florian Weimer
2022-09-26 12:52           ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2022-09-26 20:13         ` enh
2022-11-18 20:46 ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo)
2022-11-19 14:33   ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2022-11-19 17:19     ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo)
2022-11-20  8:23       ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2022-11-19 18:28     ` Rich Felker
2022-11-20  8:42       ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-03 22:58     ` enh
2023-05-04  6:19       ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-04 16:03         ` Rich Felker
2023-05-04 16:07           ` enh
2023-05-04 23:16             ` Gabriel Ravier
2023-05-05  0:37               ` JeanHeyd Meneide
2023-05-05  6:56                 ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-05 12:40                   ` Rich Felker
2023-05-05  6:40             ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-04 16:03         ` enh
2023-05-04 23:11           ` Gabriel Ravier
2022-11-19 18:31   ` Rich Felker
2022-11-20  4:25     ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo)
2022-11-20  5:34       ` Markus Wichmann
2022-11-21 11:46 ` Reini Urban
2022-11-21 21:06   ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2022-11-23  4:31     ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo)
2022-11-23  8:11       ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2022-11-23  8:20         ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo)
2022-11-23  8:33           ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2022-11-23  8:41             ` 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo)

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