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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: "Jₑₙₛ Gustedt" <jens.gustedt@inria.fr>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] patches for C23
Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 13:28:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230503172802.GY4163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230503171111.15092dbb@inria.fr>

On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 05:11:11PM +0200, Jₑₙₛ Gustedt wrote:
> Rich,
> 
> on Wed, 3 May 2023 10:16:19 -0400 you (Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>)
> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 11:12:46AM +0200, Jₑₙₛ Gustedt wrote:
> > > > Language/compiler baseline for building musl is not going to go
> > > > up, so this complicates some things, especially implementing the
> > > > int128 stuff. This will need pop_arg to call out to an
> > > > arch-provided asm function that bypasses the C type system to get
> > > > the nonexistent-type argument off the va_list and store it in a
> > > > pair of uint64_t.  
> > > 
> > > I don't see that. `pop_arg` just uses `va_arg` and that in turn is
> > > fixed to `__builtin_va_arg`. The proposed patches assume that if
> > > `__SIZEOF_INT128__` is defined by the compiler that then the
> > > compiler provides the `__int128` types and knows how to deal with
> > > them in `__builtin_va_arg`. Is there anything wrong with that
> > > assumtion?  
> > 
> > Yes. We don't require a compiler that has an __int128.
> 
> sure, but all the uses are protected by `__SIZEOF_INT128__`. So if the
> compiler don't has this, they will not see that code when compiling
> musl.

Again, there are not multiple versions of musl with different features
depending on which compiler was used to compile them. There is one
unified feature set. There are not configure-time or compile-time
decisions about which features to support.

> Also application side compilation with a different compiler that has
> no `__int128` would not see these interfaces, so such application code
> can never call into the library with `__int128` types.

The compiler used to compile musl and the compiler used to compile the
application using musl have nothing to do with each other except
sharing a baseline ABI target.

Rich

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-03 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-01 18:50 Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-01 19:24 ` Khem Raj
2023-05-01 19:41 ` Rich Felker
2023-05-02  6:57   ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-02 13:59     ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-02 23:20       ` Rich Felker
2023-05-03  0:00         ` Rich Felker
2023-05-03  9:12           ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-03 14:16             ` Rich Felker
2023-05-03 15:11               ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-03 17:28                 ` Rich Felker [this message]
2023-05-03 18:46                   ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-03 19:33                     ` Rich Felker
2023-05-04  1:09                       ` Gabriel Ravier
2023-05-04 14:07                         ` Rich Felker
2023-05-04  6:48                       ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-04 14:30                         ` Rich Felker
2023-05-04 15:31                           ` enh
2023-05-04 15:53                           ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-04 16:14                             ` Rich Felker
2023-05-10 14:17                               ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-10 14:28                             ` [musl] stdbit.h Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-04 15:50             ` [musl] patches for C23 Jeffrey Walton
2023-05-04 16:05               ` Rich Felker
2023-05-03  7:13         ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-03 14:06           ` Rich Felker
2023-05-03 14:26             ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-03 14:43               ` Rich Felker
2023-05-03 15:26                 ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt

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